A while back I posted about wanting a Crossback Stingray and Carnies In Austraila came up but after 2-3 times contacting them with no reply I came to the conclusion they are not curtious enough to get back, anyway I have been reading they are found at depths to 660 feet and usually not less than 330 ft, so would they survive in a shallow pond or is that why you dont see them in the trade? BTW NY Aquatic said he could get them for 400.00