Curious About what I Have. Fish ID's

[DirtyPaws949]

Hey all, I've had some oddballs in my tank for some time now. Someone was desperate to rehome their fish and hooked me (pun intended) into more than I bargained for.

Many seem pretty straight forward, however there are a few I'm not quite sure about.

First is the white one. Fat little thing, I think the previous owner said Red Texas.


Next is one that was acquired as a "firemouth", with 3 actual firemouths. It seems like he's doubled in size in the few months I've had him (and actually got beat up in his old home by the smaller firemouths ) I'm thinking either some Texas or perhaps Flowerhorn? Certainly has a big, yet mostly mellow personality. Likes to eat from your hand.



Next, two fairly similar fish. One was said to be a Mayan Cichlid, and the other a hybrid (the smaller one with torn fins)


And lastly, the "Tilapia", which I've found to be a very generic name.

 

[Benno87]

Havin a guess on fish 1 and 2. 1st- Texas x red devil/Midas, 2nd Texas x flowerhorn. Other 2 I've got no idea sorry.

 

[olex]

I would second Benno87 on the 2nd fish, it looks like some kind of texas / firemouth but with that red tip on its top fin it kinda looks like an ellioti cichlid which i know it isnt but still gave me the hint of that. My guess for 3rd could pretty well possibly be false red terrors ? Not sure, but could maybe be Amphilophus citrinellus too? for that last fish you could very well have a mozambique tilapia but again not 100%

 

[duanes]

First 2 are hybrids, so any name given them is simply a made handle.
The Mayan ID is correct, xCichlasoma uropthalmus.
Here's what they look like in nature (looks often vary a bit from place to place).

And the last is a Tilapine, probably what is often referred to as a Mozzambique Tilapia, Oreochromis mossambicus

 

[olex]

First 2 are hybrids, so any name given them is simply a made handle.
The Mayan ID is correct, xCichlasoma uropthalmus.
Here's what they look like in nature (looks often vary a bit from place to place).

And the last is a Tilapine, probably what is often referred to as a Mozzambique Tilapia, Oreochromis mossambicus

Was I correct at all?

 

[duanes]

You said "false red terror" which is often what uropthalmus are called.
And you said Mozzambique Tilapia, which is the common term.
I don't use common names much because they can change from country to country, or place to place within a country. Although scientific names can change when DNA evidence proves a fish doesn't belong in a genus, etc, it is usually only the genus that changes, whereas the species remains.
An example would be uropthalmus
It has been
Nandopsis uropthamus
Parapetania uropthamus
Amphilphus uropthalmus etc etc
and lately xCichlasoma uropthamus
if DNA proves a uropthamus from Progresso Mexico has enough difference to separate it from the uropthalmus in Riviera Maya, a new species name might be given for one or the other depending where the "Type" species in the original description came from. (the uropthalmus in my video are from Cenote Azul in Riviera Maya)

 

[olex]

You said "false red terror" which is often what uropthalmus are called.
And you said Mozzambique Tilapia, which is the common term.
I don't use common names much because they can change from country to country, or place to place within a country. Although scientific names can change when DNA evidence proves a fish doesn't belong in a genus, etc, it is usually only the genus that changes, whereas the species remains.
An example would be uropthalmus
It has been
Nandopsis uropthamus
Parapetania uropthamus
Amphilphus uropthalmus etc etc
and lately xCichlasoma uropthamus
if DNA proves a uropthamus from Progresso Mexico has enough difference to separate it from the uropthalmus in Riviera Maya, a new species name might be given for one or the other depending where the "Type" species in the original description came from. (the uropthalmus in my video are from Cenote Azul in Riviera Maya)

Okay thanks for the tip, I just wanted to know if I was actually right at all though like basically because I'm trying to learn as much as i can about fish.

 

[MP_cichlid]

yes definetely mayans

 

[Buphy]

Can't say on the first and forth but the second I agree is a flowerhorn x ? And the 3rd is a Mayan. All said before but I like my 2 cents *throws pennies*

 

[DirtyPaws949]

Thanks for the input!! I'm actually considering finding new homes for the Mayans and tilapia; definitely the bullies of the tank and the tilapia is way too big to be happy with the other fish in there. I had lost 3 fish, and I assumed it was something I was doing wrong until my big oscar got beat up to near death last week. Oddly enough, the slightly smaller red oscar has been protecting him (or her) since, and charges those 3 fish if they come near the injured one. I tried moving the big oscar to a hospital tank, but he seemed to get super depressed in it (so I moved the tilapia out for a few days while he got his energy back). No new wounds on him, and he appears to be healing.