Cycling a 210g Tank with Stability?

[johnnycoolxx]

I'm going to move 25 4" datnoids from a 60g to a 210g. The 210 is still an empty tank and I haven't set up the sump and FX5 on the 210g yet.

I've read the sticky on fishless cycling and zenzzo's advice on using Seachem Stability for quick cycling. I plan to use an AC 110 from my old tank and a lot of Stability to cycle my new tank.

What's the best way to add new fish to my new tank? Do I put in fish right away after putting in the old filter and Stability so the BB has ammonia to feed on or do I wait a few days before adding any fish?

 

[johnnycoolxx]

I was also thinking about siphoning 30 gallons of my old water from my 60g into my 210g tank so that the BB in the Stability could feed on the ammonia old water. What do you think of that idea?

 

[BadOleRoss]

IMO, if you are moving the filter over from the 60G to the 210G, I would move the fish right along with it. Keep an eye on ammonia and do water changed when needed. Of course you also need to have the sump and FX5 running. Are you incorporating a wet/dry into your sump?

Added: I would move all of the water, cant hurt!

 

[JK47]

IMO, if you are moving the filter over from the 60G to the 210G, I would move the fish right along with it. Keep an eye on ammonia and do water changed when needed. Of course you also need to have the sump and FX5 running. Are you incorporating a wet/dry into your sump?

Added: I would move all of the water, cant hurt!

I'm a big time Stability fan and usually promote it, in this case I agree with Ross 100%. It's wasting money if your adding anything with a significant seeded bacterial colony like an FX5. Move the filters, fish and just check your perams daily and WC as needed and stated above. GL

 

[Danger_Chicken]

The filter is what is actually being cycled when we talk about cycling a tank. So, if you are moving a cycled filter, move the fish at the same time and don't add any cycling products. If you let the filter run on a new tank with no fish the BB in the filter will starve and you'll get a mini-cycle.

I don't use any cycling products. If I'm setting up a new tank with new filters I take the sponge out of an cycled filter and clean it in the new tank, it makes the water look nasty for a day but you have a cycled filter. I haven't had any cycling issues using this method.

 

[johnnycoolxx]

Are you incorporating a wet/dry into your sump?

Added: I would move all of the water, cant hurt!

I'm going to use a 60g tank as a wet/dry. I'll have it half full of bioballs and scrubbies and use a filter sock as the mechanical filter.

If I moved all of the water from my 60g to the 210g, do I just add in Prime as usual or do I put in something that's only a dechlorinator?

I'm a big time Stability fan and usually promote it, in this case I agree with Ross 100%. It's wasting money if your adding anything with a significant seeded bacterial colony like an FX5. Move the filters, fish and just check your perams daily and WC as needed and stated above. GL

Actually, I'm still waiting to receive my FX5 in the mail. I have 2 AC 110's running right now on my current 60g setup and I plan to move one of those to the new tank to cycle it. How long do you think it might take for an AC 110 to cycle a 210g tank?

Thanks for the replies so far, they've been really helpful.

 

[Danger_Chicken]

If I moved all of the water from my 60g to the 210g, do I just add in Prime as usual or do I put in something that's only a dechlorinator?
How long do you think it might take for an AC 110 to cycle a 210g tank?

Thanks for the replies so far, they've been really helpful.

you don't need to add anything to the old water just the new water, for me I'm too lazy to move the old water, but I don't keep dats so I don't know how sensitive they are. The key is consistant parameters between the old and new water so the fish are shocked.

Let me try this again

The filter is what is actually being cycled when we talk about cycling a tank. So, if you are moving a cycled filter, move the fish at the same time and don't add any cycling products. If you let the filter run on a new tank with no fish the BB in the filter will starve and you'll get a mini-cycle.

 

[johnnycoolxx]

The filter is what is actually being cycled when we talk about cycling a tank. So, if you are moving a cycled filter, move the fish at the same time and don't add any cycling products. If you let the filter run on a new tank with no fish the BB in the filter will starve and you'll get a mini-cycle.
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Good info, thanks. I always thought it was the water and the filter that needed to be cycled.

Should I wait a few hours or maybe 1 day before I start adding fish? Or can I add fish right away after moving the filter?

 

[Danger_Chicken]

I do it right away

 

[JK47]

I do it right away

^ Agreed, add the fish right away so any seeded filter media has an immediate food source (fish waste). If you don't, the bacteria will diw off and you will truely be starting from scratch.