cycling?

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is cycling necessary on a tank that is being bought used? if cycling is necessary, is it the usual time it takes to normally cycle a tank?

also, one of the lfs says, if i put in some goldfish it will help speed up the cycling process? is this true?
 
Cycling doesn't really refer to a tank so much as a filter. If you are inheriting the tanks old filter and it suits your needs then it should be alright. I don't know that I'd trust it on day one though. If the old filter has been dry for any period of time or washed under chlorinated tap water then you'll have to scrap the aforementioned option. The rough guideline is to wait about a month for bacteria to colonize on a filter. You can speed this up with different additive products but most people I've talked to like to let nature take the lead. Adding goldfish to the tank will speed things up by creating the initial waste that starts the process. There is a much more accurate and scientific explanation of this but I'll leave it to members that moonlight as chemists.
 
Aribenlaw;757101; said:
Cycling doesn't really refer to a tank so much as a filter. If you are inheriting the tanks old filter and it suits your needs then it should be alright. I don't know that I'd trust it on day one though. If the old filter has been dry for any period of time or washed under chlorinated tap water then you'll have to scrap the aforementioned option. The rough guideline is to wait about a month for bacteria to colonize on a filter. You can speed this up with different additive products but most people I've talked to like to let nature take the lead. Adding goldfish to the tank will speed things up by creating the initial waste that starts the process. There is a much more accurate and scientific explanation of this but I'll leave it to members that moonlight as chemists.

thank you for you input! anyone else think this should be okay or what should a reasonable wait time be for cycling times?
 
If the BB in the filter is dead (has been sitting for more than 24 hours or has been washed in chlroinated water) you will need to cycle the tank. If this is the case, clean the filter completely as any excess waste in there will only confuse the issue by introducing nitrates.

You can cycle the tank two ways - with ammonia or with fish. You can't just let the tank sit for days - months with nothing in it as it won't do anything. You need to give the bacteria food to grow and that food is ammonia or fish waste.

Get yourself a good test kit - I recommend the API Freshwater Master Test Kit. You will need to monitor your tank levels (ammonia, nitrite, nitrate) daily so you know where your cycle is at. When you have had both an ammonia and nitrite spike, then they have zeroed out and you have a high reading for nitrates, your tank is cycled.

I would recommend fishless cycling, it's less messy, more predictable, you get a larger colony of bacteria (so you can add a few fish at once) and you don't harm any fish in the meantime!

All you need to do is find yourself some pure or clear ammonia. Add a small amount and test in a couple of hours to see where your ammonia is. You need to get it up to 5ppm. Do this until you get it up to where you want it and take note of how much it took.

Then add this amount daily, test daily until you get a reading for Nitrites. Then halve the dosage it took and keep adding this daily until your Nitrites spike and then both the ammonia and Nitrites have gone back to zero.

You should then do a test for Nitrates, which if you have done the method correctly, these will be very high.

You then need to do a large water change (90-100%) to get these as close to zero as possible and then you are ready to add fish. If you can't add the fish within 24 hours, keep adding the same amount to keep the beneficial bacteria alive.

If you can get some seed material from a health and established tank (filter media, gravel etc) this will speed up the cycling process a lot.
 
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