Death by Waterchange

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HarleyK

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Howdy,

This weekend was not good: I lost my Altolamprologus compressiceps during a waterchange, and it must have been poisoning by expired water conditioner:

Story:
I changed 40% on my 220 gal and 60 % on my goldfish tank. The Altos had a history of acting up when I changed water, I always thought it was the temperature difference. This time, they ended up drifting on the bottom of the tank. Therefore, I fished them out and put them in a bucket with warmer water, extra conditioner (anti-stress) and an airpump.

About 30 min after changing the water in the goldfish tank, I checked on my goldies and they were also at the bottom and secreted heavily - the slime was floating off their backs. At that moment I knew it was not the temperature that bothered my Altos. By this time, the Altos were dead.

I hurried to get new water conditioner and immediately performed 90% water changes in both tanks. I drained my 220 gal with two garden hoses! The goldies were close to death. My Corys floated on the surface, unable to return to the bottom. It must have affected their air bladder.

My Blue gouramis, Swordtails, Pantodons and Ancistrus were doing okay, however, they were all extremely passive.

About 5 h later, the goldies had recovered. The Corys are still not doing great, but I have not lost one, yet. They also returned back to the bottom of the tank. This is 16 h after the last water change.



Background:
My water conditioner was almost 6 yrs old. I had bought it in big bulk, always stored at room temperature and in the dark. It did not smell funny.
No work was done on our water pipes, thus, I can rule out copper poisoning. Also, the fish recovered after the second water change. The only difference was the water conditioner, which consequently must have been the culprit.


Lesson:
Only buy what you can use up in a year. Even if it's cheaper by the gallon, it will cost you more when fish die ...


HarleyK
 
Im real sorry to hear your loss....

If it were me i think I would have my water tested - is it city or well water?

I never lost a fish to a water change of 50%....and i never used to use conditioner ( for 20 years or more). was it a liguid type or powdered? does the mfg suggest an expiration date?

again Im sorry to hear about the loss
 
Sorry to hear :(

I noticed when i kept calvus and comps, the wild caught ones didnt like anything larger than a 30% water change. The fry I kept from them didnt mind at all though, since they were used to larger water changes in their "growout" tank. (I use the term "growout" tank but more of a semi-permanent tank, since these guys grow soooo slooow :) )
Sorry about the loss.
 
Sorry for the loss.
 
sorry about your fish bro...

though i dont understand why you did the second water change, shouldnt you have just added your new water conditioner to the previously changed water?
 
Thanks guys,

My water is city water, the conditioner was liquid (Sera Aquasafe - big brand in Europe, and I can't blame it on this. After all, it was pretty old). They do not have an expiration date on their package.

The last time the Altos acted up, I had added 20 gal to top off my 220 gal - with this water conditioner. I just thought they're ultra-sensitive. Must be a combination of that together with degraded water conditioner. After all, even my goldfish were affected ...

Damn!
HarleyK
 
FishHeadSoup said:
though i dont understand why you did the second water change, shouldnt you have just added your new water conditioner to the previously changed water?

Water conditioner neutralizes chlorine, heavy metals, and such. This does not necessarily include degradation products of old conditioners. It might very well have contained a microbial or fungal toxin. The first aid for poisoning is to remove the causative agent. Thus the water change. No alternative!

HarleyK
 
This is a good one for "lessons learned"
 
guppy said:
This is a good one for "lessons learned"

Absolutely right. I should've posted it here to begin with. Thanks, guppy.
 
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