Did it ever just grind your gears a little too much?

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Hey all,
So I thought since I'm at work, why not avoid all responsibility here, and drop a rant thread into the mix today.
My rant is of those fishkeepers out there who knowingly will keep a large species in a tank to small (yes I know beaten to death, the horse isn't getting up, its dead) but not only do that and will argue with you until the end of days, but has the audacity to call you every name under sun, and worst of all a stereotype of elitist fish keepers.
Let me explain. So I was browsing the Youtubes as I often do in my downtime, and I came across a video of several RTC (yes again I know beaten to death) that where in a tank far to small. Now I don't normally comment on videos like that because hey theres probably 5000 RTC, TSNxRTC and other giant readily available fish out there crammed into tiny tanks, but I couldn't help myself but to reply to one commenter in particular.
His notion was his RTC at 18" had been than size for a year+ in his 180 gallon tank, and that's where'd he would be keeping it for life. Again normally I would let it go because there are plenty of well intentioned but mis-informed people out there doing the same thing. But something about his attitude telling off all the responsible people who commented about the size of the tank just got at me ya know? Really just dug deep. So, respectfully, I replied and stated that a 180 would not hold an RTC for life, but rather shorten its life span due to stunting, bad water quality, etc etc blah blah blah. He then responds...not with a respectful argument but rather a hate speech about how 180 gallons is "industry standard" and that people like me ruin fishkeeping. Besides that and calling me some pretty derogatory things on top of it he then states in the wild fish are stunted all the time and live long, glorious lives. I of course retorted with the actual "standard" being no less than 400 gallons along with about 100 other facts and examples of why his way of thinking was flawed and that he was in fact a piss poor fish keeper.
I know I know...arguing in the internet is "insert any number of special Olympics jokes here" but there was just something about not only bad facts but a bad attitude that set me off. I'm sure I'll have a nice long rambling manifesto of a comment reply to read later anyhow. How about you guys? Any just dead wrong fish owners get you so revved up you just had to say something?
 
I got into an argument at a LFS once adout how they were keeping an 18-20" giant albino gourami in a 55gallon. He told me to leave which I did and when I returned, I bought the "not for sale" fish....from the first guys brother....who, surprisingly agreed with me. He sold me the fish without the brother knowing it and I gave it to a friend who put the fish in a 240 and still has it to this day. I returned a week or so later and informed the orginal guy that the gourami was doing fine. I thought he was going to hit me....he was so mad....threating me that he was going to call the police blah, blah,.blah....for someone who didn't care to provide a proper home for the fish he sure was mad when someone else did.
 
I got into an argument at a LFS once adout how they were keeping an 18-20" giant albino gourami in a 55gallon. He told me to leave which I did and when I returned, I bought the "not for sale" fish....from the first guys brother....who, surprisingly agreed with me. He sold me the fish without the brother knowing it and I gave it to a friend who put the fish in a 240 and still has it to this day. I returned a week or so later and informed the orginal guy that the gourami was doing fine. I thought he was going to hit me....he was so mad....threating me that he was going to call the police blah, blah,.blah....for someone who didn't care to provide a proper home for the fish he sure was mad when someone else did.
haha oh trust me, if mine had been a face to face argument I'd already be in jail or the argument wouldn't have happened from such a noble keyboard warrior.

I'd have lost it too on that lfs owner. People just can't be wrong when it comes to fish for some reason. nevermind you essentially stuffed the equivalent of a great dane in a walk in closet...he was mad that you knew more than him and that blows my mind...
 
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selling fish products, aquariums, and fish for years allows you to hear pretty much every bs thing people believe. A few years back I was selling a 24" silver arowana, I posted on my ad will only give to a large aquarium. I receive an email about someone wanting it for his "huge" 55 gallon. I then insisted he goes and plays in traffic
 
update us on the response to the YouTube comment. just for fun I may comment as well. just to be a piece of s***
 
for the record the RTC in the video ISN"T the guy's I'm arguing with. He's the big mouth in the comments, LikeButton, and some well intentioned folks went a few rounds before I commented on his bs. I'm OiKoga1 btw.
 
Is that live rock in that tank?....there also looks to be a clarias catfish in there,not sure of the owner's location but that catfish is not legal to own in the U.S.
 
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