Hi guys,
This might be a really silly question but i was wondering if these are really discoloured empire Gudgeons or some other breed? If it is an empire how do I get that fantastic red/ orange to come out in them? I caught them in a river near bulladellah Australia about 2 years ago for feeders and kept them because they survived the cichlid tank
Also, in the second picture, I was wondering if that is bloat???

This might be a really silly question but i was wondering if these are really discoloured empire Gudgeons or some other breed? If it is an empire how do I get that fantastic red/ orange to come out in them? I caught them in a river near bulladellah Australia about 2 years ago for feeders and kept them because they survived the cichlid tank
Also, in the second picture, I was wondering if that is bloat???
