Discus Fry Problem Urgent!

[Kelv]

*Yes I know this is the questionnaire from Simply Discus

1. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?
Young discus fry (Only 5 days after free swimming) started to swirl around in circles and would die shortly after. (Only 2 of them has died at this point) Other then introducing Baby Brine Shrimp to fry, nothing else really happened.

2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds).
Swirling around in water with erratic movement. Dying shortly after. Rapid Breathing.

3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.
Tried Prazi Pro treatment (7 Days *following bottle instructions(1tsp for 20 gallons)) before breeding hoping to clean the pair of any gill flukes.


Tank/Water

4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.
40 gallon breeder. 1 pair of discus with approximately ~40-50 baby fry.

5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often).
50% at least 3 times a week.

6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?
Tank has been running for ~7 weeks now. Sand substrate - About 1 cm deep.

7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.
n/a

8. Parameters and water source;

Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.


- temp 86 F

- ph ~7.0

- ammonia reading Undetectable

- nitrite reading Undetectable

- nitrate reading ~10ppm

What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.

- well water ____

- municipal water 100%

- RO water ____


9. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.
n/a

10. Include any pictures or videos you have which shows the symptoms. If you can't add them to this post, please provide a link to them.
Don't have any at the moment.

I believe this is Gill Flukes but I need a safe and fast treatment to save the discus fry. Is Prazi the only way to go?
*Don't have a microscope to check slime or gills of pathogens.

Also a little bit new to breeding Discus, so any other tips on breeding will help!

*Yes I know this is the questionnaire from Simply Discus

Thanks!
-Kelvin

 

[Kelv]

*Yes I know this is the questionnaire from Simply Discus

1. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?
Young discus fry (Only 5 days after free swimming) started to swirl around in circles and would die shortly after. (Only 2 of them has died at this point) Other then introducing Baby Brine Shrimp to fry, nothing else really happened.

2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds).
Swirling around in water with erratic movement. Dying shortly after. Rapid Breathing.

3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.
Tried Prazi Pro treatment (7 Days *following bottle instructions(1tsp for 20 gallons)) before breeding hoping to clean the pair of any gill flukes.


Tank/Water

4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.
40 gallon breeder. 1 pair of discus with approximately ~40-50 baby fry.

5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often).
50% at least 3 times a week.

6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?
Tank has been running for ~7 weeks now. Sand substrate - About 1 cm deep.

7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.
n/a

8. Parameters and water source;

Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.


- temp 86 F

- ph ~7.0

- ammonia reading Undetectable

- nitrite reading Undetectable

- nitrate reading ~10ppm

What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.

- well water ____

- municipal water 100%

- RO water ____


9. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.
n/a

10. Include any pictures or videos you have which shows the symptoms. If you can't add them to this post, please provide a link to them.
Don't have any at the moment.

I believe this is Gill Flukes but I need a safe and fast treatment to save the discus fry. Is Prazi the only way to go?
*Don't have a microscope to check slime or gills of pathogens.

Also a little bit new to breeding Discus, so any other tips on breeding will help!

*Yes I know this is the questionnaire from Simply Discus

Thanks!
-Kelvin

 

[Aquanero]

I would suggest some Meth blue but remember it will kill your bb it is best administered in a bath or in a seperate tank bare bottom tank. 1 teaspoon per 10 gallons of water with daily water changes for 5 days.

 

[flukekiller]

I would suggest some Meth blue but remember it will kill your bb it is best administered in a bath or in a seperate tank bare bottom tank. 1 teaspoon per 10 gallons of water with daily water changes for 5 days.

meth blue is good but be sure not to use it in the main tank, it will turn the silicone blue.

i would also get rid of the sand and do just bare bottom.

what makes you think its gill flukes? if the pair is healthy then
the fry will not have flukes.
how strong is the current from the filter? what type of filter?

also since you are using city water, what type of methods are you
using to remove chlorine/heavy metals?

 

[Kelv]

meth blue is good but be sure not to use it in the main tank, it will turn the silicone blue.

i would also get rid of the sand and do just bare bottom.

what makes you think its gill flukes? if the pair is healthy then
the fry will not have flukes.
how strong is the current from the filter? what type of filter?

also since you are using city water, what type of methods are you
using to remove chlorine/heavy metals?

I thought it was gill flukes because some parents carry a small amount of them with no affects, but this small amount may effect the fry.
I have a HOB filter, and the current is slowed down with a sponge in front of the output as well as nylon covering the input so no fry get sucked in. The current is slowed greatly from this.
I use seachems prime to remove chlorine and heavy metals.

 

[Kelv]

I would suggest some Meth blue but remember it will kill your bb it is best administered in a bath or in a seperate tank bare bottom tank. 1 teaspoon per 10 gallons of water with daily water changes for 5 days.

With the metheylene blue, what am I exactly doing to the fish?
And I only preform this bath with parents and not the fry right?

 

[Aquanero]

Treat parents and fry as discribed above. You may also add 1 tablespoon of salt per 5 gallons of water.

 

[Kelv]

Alright thanks!