Do I have a gold saum or GT?

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Gold saum = green terror with orange tips

White saum = green terror with white tips

As far as I'm concerned you have a green terror.


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You have a Gold Saum, otherwise known as your typical False Green Terror. The true Green Terror (Andinoacara Stalsbergi) is rarely available and usually needs to be ordered through specialty vendors. Below is a picture of the true Green Terror (image not mine).

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I just call them green terrors. White saums are so rare.

I think they're awesome fish. Gold or white saums. I feel like they're a hit or miss fish when it comes to how they look. I've seen some really cool ones and some really ugly ones lol


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You have a green terror. If you order a green terror at a LFS that is what you will get. The whole Gold Saum White Saum stuff started on the fish forums to differentiate it from the Stalsbergi. Maybe this is for another thread but I wonder why the Stalsbergi the "true" green terror when the rivulatus is what most people have known as a Green terror for the past 30 years. that has confused me for a while.

I noticed this year that LFS are starting to differentiate the rivulatus by calling it royal green terror and that is coming from the suppliers as I have seen it on stock lists.
 
Not that fond of the look of that "true" green terror there, to be honest. Will see how this little guy grows out, he's already got a little colour, and nice orange tipped fins.

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ehh said:
Gold saum = green terror with orange tips

White saum = green terror with white tips

As far as I'm concerned you have a green terror.
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Exactly. And stalsbergi = green terror with a different color pattern on its scales. Or to put it another way, there are green terrors from Ecuador, white and gold edged-- A. rivulatus, and a white edged green terror from Peru-- A. stalsbergi. And if you want the real history written by an expert, rather than the confusing opinions of non-expert hobbyists who attempt to artificially attach 'true', 'false', and 'original' to the fish nicknamed green terrors, read this article by biologist and cichlid writer Dr. Wayne Leibel.

And if you have heard that the supposedly original German fish is what is now Stalsbergi and was the so called 'original' or 'true' green terror, note in Leibel's article reference to a 1982 German article regarding the fish some imagine to be the 'true' green terror (A. stalsbergi) entitled "The Green Terror that Isn't" (emphasis mine)-- in other words, 30 some years ago from the viewpoint of this German writer, what some non-expert hobbyists now like to call the 'false' green terror (A. rivulatus) was the true green terror and what some non-expert hobbyists now like to call the 'true' green terror wasn't a green terror but was another fish. In fact, it wasn't that long ago that stalsbergi, not rivulatus, was believed by some to be the true rivulatus.

Confused yet? The point is 'green terror' is a nickname that has been or can be applied to more than one fish. Calling them 'true' or 'false' is unnecessarily artificial and confusing when the geographical origin and scientific names of the respective fish are fairly clear at this point.
 
Hard to beat the 'goldsaum' for looks.
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Well. I am thoroughly confused now haha. Rivulatus was what I was going for, so if the consensus is that is what I have, then I'm happy.

Thanks for the help guys :)

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