Do you Breed Feeders?

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I'm breeding feeder fish, and I've never seen fish breed this well for me until I tried Dalmatian Mollies in brackish water. I didn't start out to do it though. I didn't think they'd breed at all, but some fry went thru the overflow to the sump, and I decided to let them live there. They decided to live it up. ;)

Of course feeding my monsters is a big deal, and dried pellet foods have their limitations, not the least of which is appeal. Cost is the big one. This is something I've addressed 3 ways: feeding various live worms, frozen market shrimp, veggie scraps, and feeder fish.

I didn't plan on ever using feeders, as I was always talked off it by folks who know how poor the commercial feeder fish can be; but I was too successful as a breeder of fish that sell for pennies. :duh: The feeders are Dalmatian Mollies and various Guppies, who all go to my Oscar, and my mixed African Cichlids. This seems to be a great addition to their diet. It also adds interest to the tanks, as I will simply add 50~100 feeders of various sizes. It looks nice to see the monsters with a school, and I think this makes hunting fun for the monsters too.

I've had poor success with all breeding attempts in the past. I had successfully raised exactly one betta fry. (Zed the Betta survived by consuming his 300 tiny mates, and is still with me years later.) I may have a clue why I failed, now that I've succeeded. Experienced guys will probably nod here: It's the local water. Like much advancement in science, this truth came to me while I was looking at a different problem: How to run a brackish aquarium.

A couple years back I bought a Monodactylus Sebae: The African Mooneyfish. I'd had poor success with any fresh water Angels and I thought the Monos were similarly interesting (if not so fancy as a showfish.) It came from a fresh tank and I was told they eventually swim to the ocean, but they will live fine in half-strength seawater. In my case I use Instant Ocean at a density of 1.010~1.012.

Eventually I bought six Monos at 3~4cm tall, and they are all healthy and nearly 8" (20 cm) tall now. I also bought 4 mollies and 12 Guppies, knowing they would live in brackish water, and threw them all in a 30 tall with a small sump, and they grew well. Now I keep them in a 90g system with hundreds of Mollies and Guppies, who all live just fine in brackish water. They also supply baby feeders for the Monos, who eat any fish small enough.

The Monos love spirulina and fish pellets, and are healthy and active, but will never likely breed without a big tank of real seawater about 1.024 . The Mono Sebae are seriously good eaters, but Mollies like to eat even more, and they breed like crazy! If they weren't such cannibals I'd be overwhelmed.

So I'm feeding fry frequently with Ocean Nutrition formula 2 and Omega One flakes. I give them other commercial foods on a random basis for variety. The tiniest fry survive on lots of micro-life in the algae, and I allow lots of algae in the breeder. Mollies graze thru the algae constantly. Guppies too. Anyhow, as the monsters grow, I'll have to allow less cannibalism. I'm harvesting 2% of what's being born, but this is working well so far.
 
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I’m currently trying my hand at breeding platties and all I have to show for it is a single fry, I’m going to be getting more anarcharis to grow in the tank.
 
I’m not using any live plants in my brackish system except algae. It has fake plants and things for the algae to grow on.

In the sump the inflow goes through a pond basket filled with floss. That sits on top of another basket, which is filled with plastic scrubbers and lava rock. The parents cannot get through the holes in the basket and so the fry tend to live in there until they are big enough.

Because I’m actually breeding fish in my sump, there is a second floss filter leading to the return pump. The water gets filtered both going in and out.
 
These Mollies breed like mad, and I put another dozen in the Oscar tank yesterday. Eventually he will eat them all, but he also gets some worms, and pellets. He doesn't much care for pellets, and won't touch market shrimp. I'm going to try hanging shrimp above the water to see if he will be attracted by the swinging shrimp. Otherwise, he will eat any live bug I put in the tank.

But he likes the feeders ;) . . . He'd like them better if only they would volunteer to be eaten instead of hiding behind the bush.
 
I have marbled crayfish (self cloning ones) and I feed one to my oscar about every 2-3 weeks when they clone and the babies are big enough. I also breed earthworms and crickets as well.
 
Just as a let's see what happens type thing I put a few guppies in my crayfish colony and now I have a ton. Some are really pretty not super crazy like the designer ones but pretty. When I got my crayfish I some how ended up with two male endlers and they have cross bred with the guppies which adds a cool look to the guppies. I have tossed a handful here and there to my other fish and they seem to enjoy the hunt. No plants or real hiding spots other then the pvc for the crays I still get a ton of babies. I counted 10 pregnant females tonight.
 
Well, My dad and I are planning to build a pond. The main pond will have a few koi and a bass and large catfish. The pond will waterfall down to a smaller one. That one will be filled with mollies and platties and other feeder fish, which we will breed and give to the bass and catfish. Some fish we decided to have are Mosquito Fish, Dalmation Mollies, Red Wag Platties, Sunburst Platties, and an assorted amount of normal Endlers Livebearers. Excited to see some feedback! :popcorn:
 
I currently have a 20g with a breeding pair of white convicts that I use to feed my dovii. I also have a few large bins with dubia roach and locust that I feed mainly to my tarantulas but also use for the dovii and an istlanum colony.
 
Rosy Reds will breed insanely quickly in an outdoor or indoor pond, living happily at anywhere from room temperature to beneath thick ice outdoors. They are extremely hardy, colorful enough to be readily visible from above and very active. When it comes to productivity they put livebearers to shame; I put 30 into my small inground backyard pond last spring and netted out roughly 2400 a few weeks ago, and there are still several hundred in there who escaped the net. If even a few inches of water remains unfrozen at the bottom of the pond...which is very unlikely....they will repopulate on their own next year. Since I expect the water to freeze solid, I put 100 or so into a small stock tank in the basement for next year. The rest are frozen for use as food.

They are also...presumably due to their bright color...the most productive frozen bait minnow species I have ever used. :)
 
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