Dovii, male female? aggresion? breeding behaviour or killing...

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I have owed a dovii for about the last 8-12months, its around 8" longer
alway hated my flowerhorn which its lived next door to(divider) they spent much of thier time attempting to kill other another through the divider.
now walked in to my local fish shop last friday, spotted a large-ish dovii forsale probley twice mines length and roughly about 3-4 times it size, very dull pretty sad looking fish, small signs of hole in the head, got it cheap $20 with instructions too keep the water good feed it well it should be fine.
all well and good very happy with it. now the issue is that my new large fish seems to be very calm, very little agression quite happy swims about etc usall fish business, i was told it was getting bashed by it old tank mates who ever they were and well its pretty much how its going now.
now realising that dovii and agrey bastards and love to kill/fight how do i tell the difference between mating behaviour ( asuming i have male and female ) and genreal im going to kill you this is my home behaviour, the first 4 days they werent too bad last night the smaller one started digging throwing gravel everywhere and genrally trying to be sexy, with little intrest from the new larger one although it did partake in some gravel moving. now this afternoon after i cleaned the tank out they have been fighting alot, jaw locking the smaller one chasing the bigger one etc
iv never breed dovii only convicts, so whats the go do they want to kill one another ? or is it mating ? or is it niether and just the fact they have big teeth and hate the living? any advice would be good
they are housed alone in a standard 6 foot tank.
cheers.
ill upload pictures later too see if anyone is able to sex them because iv got no idea they are both pretty bland, probley due to inbreeding because of the fact that australia probley doesnt have the been supply of cichlids.
 
pics will be necessary for a start. i will need to see clear pics of the each fish's body.

it sounds to me like you have 2 males to be honest mate, its usually the males who do the 'flirting' and if the smaller one is doing this to the bigger one (which you suggested was 15-16") then i cant see the bigger one being a female...

heres a quick way you can tell sex's, males are covered in speckles/dots and females have fairly prodominant dark black lines over body.
 
that is a male and female you have there...

no way is the larger one 16" though!!

it could be breeding behaviour, and likely is.
 
which is the male and which is the female lol... im guessing the smaller one is the male?
16" was a guess to be honest dont really use " in australia
the fighting has stopped..kinda they seem to like one another well as much as dovii can they seem to hang out quite alot, the smaller one genrally following the larger one and giving it a hard time.

edit maybe 20-25cm hard to measure as its quite skidish
 
ok, yes, that sounds more realistic, the larger one is the female and the smaller one is the male..

ive never seen a male like yours before though, barely any speckles above lateral line!

parachromis are pretty well known for giving each other a hard time when pre-spawning/spawning, so chances are the male is trying to get the female to spawn...

how is the female reacting to the males behaviour?
 
not really that intrested... every so often they have abit of a scarp and the male leaves her alone, last night she seemed keen ish though doing alittle digging etc but it was more so the smaller male who was losing his ****, also sinse the introduction of her his colours seemed to have got much brighter...still pretty dull but oh well

shes is very quite and has " hole in the head " not a bad case but still trying to get on top of it. i belive that it must have ocured whilst with her previous owner, where she was getting" bashed" so im asuming shes quite stressed, new home etc
hopefully they breed as iv been trying to breed dovii for ages now!
 
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