kiLLz kC;1112486; said:call Brother's Pets in Independence, MO and see if they'll ship theirs. they have a super aggressive male that's looking for a large tank. he's at least 13 inches. they sold him once but he came back cause the dude that bought him first couldn't sleep with the dovii in the tank in his room. splashed too much and every so often would bang his head. thoroughbred man.....try them out.