drop-eye gone cloudy

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Andyroo

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Q: good way to clear a cloudy eye?

My silver girl (~14") always loved to hunt & jump - water lettuce on the tank surface was an easy way to keep her fed by adding a small frogs & bugs & roaches and she'd pick them as she went. She grew, she started hammering the top/brace glass and had her first minor drop-eye at maybe 6~7". That softened as she grew, then returned with (I'm guessing) novel bashing/injury. Now it's bad and it ain't going back, looking like it's even got a background swelling though she doesn't miss a beat. She still jumps for ($#!!*!*) everything... I've filled the tank to the tippy-top in the hope that there be less inertia - just taps & kisses now, rather than tooth-rattling BASH!

Earlier this week I noticed that the dropped eye was somewhat clouded, though no other injury visible. Cleaned/backwashed filters, swapped 40% water and added a heaping tablespoon of sea-salt. Seems same or a little worse today (4days) so swapping another 25% and adding another heaping spoon of salt and will again in 48hrs. I'll get/add a few almond leaves right now. She's able to see through not finding/fighting-for sinking stuff on that side as she did previously.

Anything else to do?

She's otherwise appearing to be fully healthy - vigorous, hungry, colour, fins erect, growing and other eye is clear. No other notable issues in the tank (5x med SDs, 3x med angels, 1x med ABK & RBS). Her new rainwater 250 has a little leak; once I've fixed, she'll move over.

Tank/system: 6-foot 100gal tank with oats-sand bottom, arguably understocked with heaps of filtration & flow. Somewhat underfed with snails, wee inverts & infauna, bamboo decor and some plants incl moss. I don't have access to a parameters test kit, though will go into what passes for a pet-shop locally for another look. Local tap-water errs towards the harder @ probably 7~7.5pH. Temp right now is 29~30C in the day, 27+ overnight.
 
Thoughts?
Other eye's starting to not look right...

Water changes & sea-salt continue & almond leaves added.
Started carrot gut-loaded juv roaches today to make sure vitamins are up.
Still active & hungry, though misses the foot item more than usual.
 
Water changes, almond leaves and salt continue, yet eyes are not clearing. If anything, getting worse...

The dog is currently on a general antibiotic of brand-name CEFUR (Cefuroxime Axetil)
Is it wise and/or safe to gut-load and/or powder her breakfast roach?
Alt. I can also dispatch & stuff a swordtail, though I'm trying to not get her onto (live) fish. She had-feeds pretty easily, so that's not an issue. Can dangle just above water & she'll come & get.

The dog is 120Lbs & unlikely to miss a few grains. I'm leery to go to the pharmacy for a different antibiotic, COVID considered, though I can/do as necessary. Below note suggests that this med could/should be the right stuff anyways - though I'm open to discussion.

Oddly, the previously dropped eye seems to be straightening, whereas the previously "good" eye seems to be dropping... so I assume there's a swelling. Otherwise the fish is/seems good - eating/hungry, colourful, fins out, energetic etc.

Finally - I see videos of one-eye'd silvers doing fine, but how about fully-blind (if it gets that far)?

Note on the med <http://kraftdrug.com/product/aquarium-cefuroxime-axetil-500mg-30-count-usp/>
So alt #3 would be to dose the tank at 500mgs/20gal/day (5 tabs/day, though I'd reduce vol/depth accordingly). This generic med ain't terribly costly, even directly from the vet (thus saving the pharmacy trip).

I assume that a full-tank-dose will impact my de-Nitrogen'ing bacteria, particularly within the filter.
 
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Please post water parameters. I’d suggest maracyn2. Wouldn’t use the cefuroxime as the dosing is different for Dogs and fish. Lot of it is weight based. Also suggest stop feeding live foods. Try a floating pellet and avoid triggering more jumps.
 
Thanks kno4te kno4te .
I'm on a small developing state island = no test kits locally (
particularly right now re lockdown of shops) and only koi & tilapia (aquacultural) pellets on my best day, which she'll taste but not eat.

I've only had her on roaches this week with the clouding, trying to augment nutrition via gut-load. Otherwise it's frozen shrimp & "seafood medley" with prawn, squid, mussel etc.

It's a toss-up to kill the roach first, as now that vision is fading she's not easily finding/seeing/feeling what's not kicking - once that initial splash fades, she's often not finding.


Was going to put a bit of pill-scraping into the head-hole of (twitchy dead) roach to keep it very target, but quite uncomfortable with all & so will stay the course & forgo meds for now.

What I can say re. water quality is that she's getting copious new/changes of what generally is good/clean out of the pipe. However, it's dry-season so the pipe-water is likely/usually actually better than normal - I used to do a bit of work with that Govt. Ministry, though I don' t know anybody to get tests done anymore.
 
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