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so this is not my first rodeo. i have many tanks with many fish. i have a 150 in my livingroom with what was 9 festae, 2 ornatum, 2 yoyo loaches, an orange spot pleco, a royal pleco, and a small grammode. no problems ever. last night i was watching them and 3 of my festae are swimming at the top of the water. im like wtf!? i tested the water, alls fine and good. but i knowww something is going on. just to be safe i do a 25 percent waterchange before i go to sleep. i wake up, there still up on top of the water. wtf!? i test... all good. so i go to work. i get home. 1 dead festae laying on the gravel, 1 swimming sideways dying... 2 more at the top of the water. im so upset and cant figure it out. i took the 2 festae out there about 3 inches and put them in one of my 240s. bad move but i cant do anything else except get dressed and drive to my fishroom at 4 am... so im hoping that none of the giants in that tank enjoy them as feeders. back to the 150. the only and i mean only thing i can think of is i sprayed ortho maxx bug spray around the perimiter of my house. nowhere near this tank. actualy closer to my other tanks. the 150 has a powerhead with a prefilter on it wich is hooked up to a bubbler wich pumps air into the waterflow. could this actualy be killing my fish? its the only tank with a bubbler on it and only tank being affected. my water param. is fine. obviously i dont have an orthomaxx test kit lol. wow an actual lol from me right now is incredible.

any ideas help/ im irate
 
i am sorry to hear this..hope you find out what happened...it does sound like the fumes from bug spray.. some fish are more sensitive then others and it depends on what direction the bug spray mist was carried in the air.. if you had a window open the breeze could carry it right across the room.. better do alot of water changes.. unfortuanalty some fish do not die right away but slowly become ill.. it just depends how much mist got in the water.
 
Always take care when using household chemicals near fish tanks. Fish are very sensitive to many of the ingredients used in such products. Poisoning can easily occur from a small amount of stray chemical mist.

There is little that can be done for a poisoned fish besides cleaning the water and hoping for the best. Adding fresh activated water to the filter may be beneficial and a 25% or greater water change can help. If it is practical to move the poisoned fish to an old established aquarium this is even better.
 
I would do a very large water change 75% or more and dose with prime, do another large water the next day. Use the carbon for a week and depending on what the tamp is in the tank maybe lower a few degrees to improve the O2 and keep it well airated. As has been mentioned you can only hope for the best. Good luck.
 
Carbon and water changes, and along the same line....
Protein skimmers also remove organic and non-organic chemicals very quickly, I have them on my ponds, and when the neighbors spray, the fractionators react to the chemicals immediately, removing them, as opposed to sequestering.
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Have you watched the grammode closely, they are very stealthy, and have a tenancy to to go psychotic, and can take out an entire tank of larger fish in days, once they hit the dominance stage. The stress alone of a manic grammode is dangerous.
When the grammode below hit maturity, it took out 5 fish over night.
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Sorry about your current troubles. I have seen this happen before when people use pesticides and air fresheners. You've received some great advice already and I agree with what has been said. A deep water change with additional charcoal in your filtration should quickly rid your tank of any lingering poison. Hopefully your Grammode isn't taking out your fish. I've never owned the species but have read about them doing exactly what Duanes stated. I hope you can solve this problem before you lose anymore fish.
 
Gotta agree on the grammodes theory. My 5 inch female is kept in a 20 gallon because she was trying to kill my 10 inch red isletas. They are insane and a very skilled fish when it comes to fighting. I might be trading mine in to the fish store since she won't really accept tankmates

THE GOAT
 
It definitely sounds like that they may be affected by the chemicals. May be the only tank showing as they are some more sensitive species but lots of good advice given so hopefully itll work out and i will agree with the stealthy nature of how grammodes can be and dangerous in terms of aggression

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