Eartheater experts opinion needed

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HrHagel

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Geophagus Altifrons "Rio Curua"
Geophagus cf Agyrostictus
Geophagus sp. "Areoes"
Geophagus sp. "Pindaré"
Satanoperca Maripitensis

Anything i need to know before i go out and buy a ton of these fish?
Other than the basics and obvious things.
 
HrHagel;4008953; said:
Geophagus Altifrons "Rio Curua"
Geophagus cf Agyrostictus
Geophagus sp. "Areoes"
Geophagus sp. "Pindaré"
Satanoperca Maripitensis

Anything i need to know before i go out and buy a ton of these fish?
Other than the basics and obvious things.

You need to know those are all beautiful species. ;) Any info on your tanks, set up sizes etc...? I am really partial to the Satanoperca Mapiritensis owning a group myself. Would love to trade experiences with a follow MFK'er.
 
peathenster;4010503; said:
Are you actually going to get all of them?

my thoughts exactly!
 
Argyrostictus are quite aggressive both externally and conspecifically. I'd recommend a large setup with a large number of individuals to begin with. Please note I have no personal experience with them.

sp. "Pindare" can be quite tedious and should be kept in ideal water conditions as they're prone to bacterial infections.

Treat the Areoes as an altifrons, very similiar species (I've even read it's an alternate name for G. altifrons "Tocantins"). Both will be quite hardy but need large setups.

Satanoperca maripitensis need ideal water conditions otherwise they will develop skin lesions on the forehead similiar to HITH. This doesn't mean bi-daily water changes to keep Nitrates down, it means making sure they're kept in a soft, low pH and low TDS/conductivity setup. While these lesions will happen to most Eartheaters if kept for long periods of time in hard water, Satanoperca are especially prone to it.

Other than that, the usual. Fine sand substrate, variety of crushed/1mm high quality sinking pellets such as New Life Spectrum, driftwood and rocks for cover, subdued lighting and high capacity filtration with lower flow rates. Sounds like you've got the 4+ per species covered.
 
arron24;4009056; said:
i will keep an eye on this thread as im poss going down a similar route :)
Hehe okay :) Good luck! Hope you decide to go with eartheaters.
JK47;4009844; said:
You need to know those are all beautiful species. ;) Any info on your tanks, set up sizes etc...? I am really partial to the Satanoperca Mapiritensis owning a group myself. Would love to trade experiences with a follow MFK'er.
Oh, i already knew that! ;)
At first they will be spread out in 20g 55g and 110g, since the only tank i have that is big enough to house them all, houses a very beautiful, but VERY aggressive arrowana, and i really don't wish to part with this one.
I am looking in to getting a new tank setup, but with all these highly expensive fish incoming, it will be a while before i can go out and actually buy one.
Obviously it would be ideal if i had the tank before purchasing the fish, but i cannot let these fish slip, when i finally tracked down and established a connection with THE only importer in the country.

Ah that's right, you are the one with the mapiritensis! I too am looking forward to sharing experienses with this wonderful species!

peathenster;4010503; said:
Agyrostictus :drool:

Are you actually going to get all of them?
Yes the agyro are very beautiful indeed :drool:

That's the plan atleast, we'll see once i get down there and see the condition of the fish etc. Photos look amazing though! So i'm counting on it :)
devder1;4010645; said:
my thoughts exactly!

japes;4010764; said:
Argyrostictus are quite aggressive both externally and conspecifically. I'd recommend a large setup with a large number of individuals to begin with. Please note I have no personal experience with them.

sp. "Pindare" can be quite tedious and should be kept in ideal water conditions as they're prone to bacterial infections.

Treat the Areoes as an altifrons, very similiar species (I've even read it's an alternate name for G. altifrons "Tocantins"). Both will be quite hardy but need large setups.

Satanoperca maripitensis need ideal water conditions otherwise they will develop skin lesions on the forehead similiar to HITH. This doesn't mean bi-daily water changes to keep Nitrates down, it means making sure they're kept in a soft, low pH and low TDS/conductivity setup. While these lesions will happen to most Eartheaters if kept for long periods of time in hard water, Satanoperca are especially prone to it.

Other than that, the usual. Fine sand substrate, variety of crushed/1mm high quality sinking pellets such as New Life Spectrum, driftwood and rocks for cover, subdued lighting and high capacity filtration with lower flow rates. Sounds like you've got the 4+ per species covered.
All very good info! Thank you very much Japes! Cheers!
 
Some pics of the fish:

1. Altifrons "rio curua"
2. "Aereos"
3. "Pindaré"
4. Agyrostictus
5. Mapiritensis

rio curua.jpg

Aereos.jpg

Pindare.jpg

Agyro.jpg

Mapiri.jpg
 
HrHagel;4011494; said:
Some pics of the fish:

1. Altifrons "rio curua"
2. "Aereos"
3. "Pindaré"
4. Agyrostictus
5. Mapiritensis

Beautiful, are those pics from your tanks or the importer? How many of each species did you get? I see big, sandy, dark tanks in your future. ;) The S. Mapiritensis looks to be about 3"-4" in size correct?
 
JK47;4011625; said:
Beautiful, are those pics from your tanks or the importer? How many of each species did you get? I see big, sandy, dark tanks in your future. ;) The S. Mapiritensis looks to be about 3"-4" in size correct?
The pics are from the importer :)
I'm not making the trip down there untill a week or so from now.
I'm not sure about the size of the fish in the actual picture, cause the only info i have gotten from him is that they vary alot in sizes since they are all wild caught.

And yes, the tanks they go in will be dedicated solely to these fish, and scaped accordingly :-)
 
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