Egg Binding....

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My big female red devil has been gravid for months..I bred her with a male, and they spawned about five times, in as many months. The male started to beat on her, and tatter her fins, so I separated them.


They have been in communities respectively with no issues. My water is probably better than yours;) I do not slack in my tanks, and spend ALL of my free time getting better at what we do. My parameters could not be better.

I fed my precious red devil (bashful) the night before she started having problems. I turned on the light in the morning to find her doing "death spirals"...I did not panack....

I Pm'd/E-mailed/called all of the big guns (Joey, Miles, Nic, Liz, Li) And we are all stumped...

This made my scientific research mode go into EPIC overdrive. My last resort will be an Epsom's bath, or I will message the eggs out on my own. She has started to excrete some "pre birth"? Any breeder would know the white stuff I speak of....Her breathing is heavy, and she is growing more lethargic...

This is the crossroad for her...She is telling me she wants to fight it on her own, but I will not let her give up.

If I have ever inspired anyone in this hobby, I would like to tell you, my red devil gave me that inspiration to spread in the first place...I know some may think I am over reacting, but I have saved things WAY worse for ware...

I will be burning the midnight oil. But if she does die, I think I am mentally prepared for the worst....Wish me luck with my endeavor, as both, myself, and my beloved red devil, will need all of the extra help we can get.

Let this also be a lesson for all of those who are breeding fish for no good reason. Playing god (like I do/did) even with good intentions can lead to disaster,as it has in my case....Thanks for taking the time to read my words...

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She gave up on me :( As soon as I touched her, she died...I did not squeeze her...I am OK though.
 
That sucks, sorry bro.

From the photos the string looking thing appears to be coming out of the anus, not the genital papillae. For future reference I'd looking into intestinal blockage or prolapsed intestines, not egg impaction.

As far as I know, egg impaction should not be rectified by massage, as that will rupture the ovaries. There is a lot of info on it dealing with koi...
 
Modest_Man;2277733; said:
That sucks, sorry bro.

From the photos the string looking thing appears to be coming out of the anus, not the genital papillae. For future reference I'd looking into intestinal blockage or prolapsed intestines, not egg impaction.

As far as I know, egg impaction should not be rectified by massage, as that will rupture the ovaries. There is a lot of info on it dealing with koi...





A massage can be given as a last resort....Epsom dips can aid as well...Most often you are just trying soothe the fish, until its own body absorbs the eggs. This was a very healthy breeding female, who was pulled from breeding by me...Visually she was as normal looking as can be....I would like to think I am not a total retard when it comes caring for fish.....
 
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