well i can get the ehiem for $100 or a rena xp3 for $75 the stock is a couple of africans nothing heavy stocked but we dont want an h.o.b cuz it looks ugly we rather have 2 tubes , right now he has an aqueon 75 but we want to swap it for a canister, but which canister is more reliable and easyer overall , currently these are our only 2 options we are leaning torwards the ehiem unless anybody chips in , we get these 2 powerful ones to beable to suck up crap from each side