electric versus powder blue jack dempsey
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Electic Blue Jack Dempsey is the accepted nic name for the Blue morph of Dempseys...
Some of these fish do appear more powder Blue, but they are the same fish...
Then you have the small group of people who like to give fancy new names to genetically normal fish with a slightly abnormal look. Obviously they should be ignored.
But chances are... a fish labeled "powder blue Dempsey" is a young Electric Blue Jack Dempsey, as when young they are more of a powdered blue color...
Note: If you ever see me say Blue Dempsey I mean Electric Blue Jack Dempsey... that's just too much typing... but EBJD is not quite enough info for the new memebers trying to follow a conversation... So Blue Dempsey is my balance
Some of these fish do appear more powder Blue, but they are the same fish...
Then you have the small group of people who like to give fancy new names to genetically normal fish with a slightly abnormal look. Obviously they should be ignored.
But chances are... a fish labeled "powder blue Dempsey" is a young Electric Blue Jack Dempsey, as when young they are more of a powdered blue color...
Note: If you ever see me say Blue Dempsey I mean Electric Blue Jack Dempsey... that's just too much typing... but EBJD is not quite enough info for the new memebers trying to follow a conversation... So Blue Dempsey is my balance
nc_nutcase;3128822; said:Electic Blue Jack Dempsey is the accepted nic name for the Blue morph of Dempseys...
Some of these fish do appear more powder Blue, but they are the same fish...
Then you have the small group of people who like to give fancy new names to genetically normal fish with a slightly abnormal look. Obviously they should be ignored.
But chances are... a fish labeled "powder blue Dempsey" is a young Electric Blue Jack Dempsey, as when young they are more of a powdered blue color...
Note: If you ever see me say Blue Dempsey I mean Electric Blue Jack Dempsey... that's just too much typing... but EBJD is not quite enough info for the new memebers trying to follow a conversation... So Blue Dempsey is my balance
Not a very good practice though because there is a Blue Gene Jack Dempsey so Bluy Dempsey is different than a Electric Blue Jack Dempsey. A Blue Dempsey or (Blue gene) looks just like a regular JD but carries the Blue gene. Only a BG X EBJD can create a EBJD.
mostlycichlids;3129057; said:
"Blue Dempsey" would be a Dempsey that is Blue...
To assume it is a Dempsey that is not blue, but carries a recessive gene to create offspring that are blue... is adding a whole lot to a simple statement...
You are correct though that in my original explanation I neglected to mention or include the Blue Gene Dempsey... But as there is no visible difference between them and standard Dempseys... and were not discussing breeding... I saw no reason to include the genetically recessive fish...
Likewise I neglected to mention Luecistic (Gold) Dempseys... as they also did not relate to the original question at hand...
Another small amendment to the quote above… BG (Blue Gene Dempseys) x BG also produce Blue offspring…
My apologies if I appear to be nitpicking… just trying to keep things clear and prevent misunderstandings
Not true... EBJDxEBJD would produce 100% EBJD (however, to my knowledge, no one has gotten viable fry this way). But BGJDxBGJD produces 25% EBJD offspring, and this DOES produce viable offspring. A number of people are going this route to try to improve the genetic make-up of EBJDs by introducing more "normal" or wild-caught genetics into the breeding process.mostlycichlids;3129057; said:
Liecistic X Blue = Normal looking fish...
Myself and a few others have bred Leucisitic x Blue to prove the first part... I do not believe anyone has bred the BluexLeucistic offspring together yet to verify what that result would be...
In theory, they will be recessive for both Blue and Leucism... but depending on how each mutation works, one may be dominant over the other thus washing it out... It will not be possible to have a Blue & Leucistic fish as being Leucistic means it does not produce pigment... and it would take pigment for the fish to be Blue... So it has to be a one or the other kind of thing...
My belief is that the Leucism will 'turn off' or wash out the Blue... but that's just my theory...
Myself and a few others have bred Leucisitic x Blue to prove the first part... I do not believe anyone has bred the BluexLeucistic offspring together yet to verify what that result would be...
In theory, they will be recessive for both Blue and Leucism... but depending on how each mutation works, one may be dominant over the other thus washing it out... It will not be possible to have a Blue & Leucistic fish as being Leucistic means it does not produce pigment... and it would take pigment for the fish to be Blue... So it has to be a one or the other kind of thing...
My belief is that the Leucism will 'turn off' or wash out the Blue... but that's just my theory...
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