Fading Genetics
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Haha yeah, missed that somehow. XD Just read it a bit ago.
After reading up on some of the papers, seems like it is indeed dominant, though there seems to be different alleles and probably different genes.
After reading up on some of the papers, seems like it is indeed dominant, though there seems to be different alleles and probably different genes.
What he said. There's a lot more to how the faded gene will display itself. I don't care how much midas/devil blood you want to introduce into the fish and make it fade. Afterall, they are not the only reason why faders existed in the first place. The fading mystery between a F1 gen parrot base Kamfa has yet been explained...I'll put it at that for the rest of you guys to discuss about it further if you wish.
If a fish lacks melanin (such as a fader) it is amelanistic. Amelanism is a recessive trait, therefore for a fish to exhibit this trait it must be carrying two genes for the trait. (homozygous) In fish, amelanism is caused by a loss tyrosinase function, just as it is in mammals. Having said that, with fish there can be other pigments present so amelanistic vertebrates are seldom white with pink eyes like amelanistic mammals. The appearance of an amelanistic fish depends on the remaining non-melanin pigments.
Just as it is in albinism, amelanism results from inheritance of recessive alleles for this trait. It is basically the same principal as an albino defect, but with amelanism it is a lack of dark pigment, as opposed to a lack of all pigments, such as in albinism.
Certainly this trait can be further manipulated by FH breeders to produce varying results in gene expression in different strains of fish, but the info that I posted in the above link was only explaining the "fading" gene, and how it originally came about in flowerhorns. What some breeder in Bangkok does with each strain of fish that he produces is anyones guess.
As far as the fading gene itself, there is no mystery.
Just as it is in albinism, amelanism results from inheritance of recessive alleles for this trait. It is basically the same principal as an albino defect, but with amelanism it is a lack of dark pigment, as opposed to a lack of all pigments, such as in albinism.
Certainly this trait can be further manipulated by FH breeders to produce varying results in gene expression in different strains of fish, but the info that I posted in the above link was only explaining the "fading" gene, and how it originally came about in flowerhorns. What some breeder in Bangkok does with each strain of fish that he produces is anyones guess.
As far as the fading gene itself, there is no mystery.
with these super cross breeds carrying many random genes, we don't know which gene will come into play(more or less) in any generations after. But if you want for sure faders best to put together 2 faded fishes
check these out:
http://www.flowerhorncraze.com/topic/238795-red-monsters/
http://www.flowerhorncraze.com/topic/185780-fader-and-kkp-spawn/page__st__60
check these out:
http://www.flowerhorncraze.com/topic/238795-red-monsters/
http://www.flowerhorncraze.com/topic/185780-fader-and-kkp-spawn/page__st__60
Correct, as I previously stated;
That's the way it works in hybrid strains, but at the end of the day amelanism is still a recessive trait.
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That's the way it works in hybrid strains, but at the end of the day amelanism is still a recessive trait.
Like I said. It is both.
And these threads I posted are real action proves.
Don't believe everything you read either. Even if it sounds smart and scientific. haha. Like when ppl talk about god like they met and know him. lol
This world's got a lot to discover. Mankind don't know everything god does yet though we are smart animals. God/nature is very amazing..
Do accept and understand we aren't all perfect either. so it is ok to be wrong sometimes. But me Im always right
J/K haha http://www.flowerhorncraze.com/topi...-thread/page__pid__497780__st__40#entry497780
The fading principle between such a diluted fish such as a SRD, why is there fading so much more dominant(since it's mentioned to be a recessive genetic)? In the other hands, take a look at 99% of any parrot base Kamfa. Putting the words into work is actually much more complicated than what everyone likes to read and see(hell - a Classic Kamfa have a higher fading ratio than any parrot base Kamfa). So it's still a mystery...unless you study in genetic engineering. Do we perhaps have someone on this board that wears goggles, white lab coats, and play with the nucleus of a cell on this board? LOL.