fed up with the tsn

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dudefish82

dudefish82

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in my last post i posted a thread about my tsn not eating in the pond he finally ate but the next day i put food he did not eat. and finally yesterday the guy was upside down hanging by a thread i put him back to the tank from my pond and today he started eating like a pig in the tank he seems to rreally like the tank he does not even look at his food in the pond he's body was very thin when i put him in the tank.
i don't know what to do the tank is only 55 gallons while the pond is 450 gallons he just want eat in the pond. he is about 13 inches and i cannot keep him in the tank forever it is too small for him:screwy:
 
well in the tank everything is fine same with the pond iam just worried a 12 inch tsn in 55 gallon wonk work
 
dudefish82 said:
well in the tank everything is fine same with the pond iam just worried a 12 inch tsn in 55 gallon wonk work
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Something is obviously different or your TSN wouldn't have such an adverse reaction to being in the pond. It may or may not be something you can test for with the aquarium test kits. What tests do you have? Can you post parameters instead of calling it fine. Saying parameters are fine makes folks think you don't test your water and it will be assumed it's a water quality issue.
 
houie925 said:
...Saying parameters are fine makes folks think you don't test your water and it will be assumed it's a water quality issue.
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Absolutely yes, and yes! Do you have a quality test kit?

You have to figure out what's wrong with your pond... and something must be very wrong with it. If not ammonia, nitrite, etc., it could be there is not enough aeration and water movement.

In fact, if I had to half-blindly guess at the moment, I'd say this is consistent with too low dissolved oxygen (DO):

-- the TSN was struggling to adjust to a much lower DO and it took him 2 weeks to accomplish this, more or less;

-- then he ate and the oxygen demand in his body increased as oxygen is needed in all sorts of metabolic processes;

-- he struggled for one day and then was almost dying from insufficient oxygen concentration in his blood that started to affect his brain function - hence, upside down;

-- as soon as you put him in the water with good DO, he sprang up almost instantly.


On a different note, IMHO that you don't have to care about one bit, it is the TSN that should be fed up with you. You are using him as a guinea pig to learn a lot of things and his life is at risk. At least I'd be thankful and compassionate to the fish. Please, be not angry with the fish that you are using to learn the hobby.
 
okay that's right i love my tsn that is why he is in tank but for the same reason iam worried he cannot move around in thank much since the tank is only 55g
i tested the pond water quality ammonia read 0.25ppm so i was wrong the pond get algae all year around eventhough there are 3 pumps.
the only thing i can do is keep my tsn in the 55 gallons until my indoor pond is ready
 
So, you don't think this is the DO issue. Fine. BTW, heavy algae can stifle the water flow greatly and also use up a lot of oxygen at night (they produce oxygen only in sun light but they "breathe" like all living beings all the time). This is why great fish die-offs occur in algal blooms, like the red tide.

Please describe the test kit you are using and include all the parameters - NO2, NO3, and pH. Temp too.

I struggle to imagine that 0.25 ppm of NH3 could almost kill your TSN in 2 weeks but perhaps your kit is not that good and/or perhaps your pH is alkaline. 0.25 ppm NH3 is nothing at pH 6.0-6.5 but can kill efficiently at pH of 8.0-8.5.

***If you establish beyond doubt that NH3 is only 0.25 ppm and other parameters are good and the water is not alkaline, then I'd suggest to look at other things, especially the DO (it can be as easy as cleaning the pond thoroughly and shading it), because IMHO 0.25 ppm NH3 alone does not explain the events you reported.***
 
yea my test kit maybe bad the problem is need to order these test kits from eBay it takes around 2 weeks to get cause there are no test kits around here
 
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