Feeder fish loss...

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littleg902

littleg902

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A question for all the LFS owners and employees. How do you guys prevent large comet goldfish loss? Im not having a huge loss number weekly, but out of about 800 comets I generally lose about 200 per week and have done everything I can think to remedy the situation. They may be cheap, but yearly it adds up to a significant number. Any good secrets that can help? Water params are spot on, with the only questionable one being a 7.6 ph, which is a tad high...
 
We run a large bio filter on each of the individual tubs, usually with 1 to 2 additional internal filters and some airstones if necessary. As well these tubs are hooked into an automatic water changer to keep water parameters good. We usually get 1500 - 2000 per week of large comet goldfish. Even with all this there can still be a lot of deads depending on the individual batch of feeders.
 
pharmaecopia said:
We run a large bio filter on each of the individual tubs, usually with 1 to 2 additional internal filters and some airstones if necessary. As well these tubs are hooked into an automatic water changer to keep water parameters good. We usually get 1500 - 2000 per week of large comet goldfish. Even with all this there can still be a lot of deads depending on the individual batch of feeders.
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So out of 800 200 die well that's 1/4 of ur fish, so if u had 4 golds 1 would die, that's just a number game on a higher scale.





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100 gallon system with no fluctuations in water parameters w/ auto water changer that does about 15% a day. The only thing I can think to help is maybe throwing in a buffer to stabalize the ph when a shipment arrives to deal with the ph drop that takes place because of the ammonia spike that happens an hour or two after recieving due to the rapid bio load increase.
 
I do seem to always notice ph has something to do with this and it is normally on the higher side. What are your thoughts on lowering the ph to around 6.8 to 7? I assume this is where the vendor stock ponds would be around. I drip acclimate shipments but shipping bag to stock tank is always a very stressful ordeal,.even for feeders. I might be answering my own question, but would like to hear input before jepordizing 1000+ fish and unhappy customers with no feeders for their less than adequately cared for oscars and pirahnas lol.
 
We don't mess with pH. All our feeders come from local wholesalers who would have a similar pH as us. You also take a longer time to acclimate than us. We just float the bags for 15 minutes or so. Then scoop out the feeders and add them to the system, getting rid of the shipping water. Occasionally we add some sort of biological support product to the tubs as well.
 
Huge bio filtration system, syphon the bottoms of the tanks once a week for a water change, add buffer blocks if the ph or alkalinity drops. Lots and lots of oxygen. Feed them algae wafers once a day, it seems to greatly reduce loss for some reason.

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pharmaecopia said:
We don't mess with pH. All our feeders come from local wholesalers who would have a similar pH as us. You also take a longer time to acclimate than us. We just float the bags for 15 minutes or so. Then scoop out the feeders and add them to the system, getting rid of the shipping water. Occasionally we add some sort of biological support product to the tubs as well.
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Agreed. We've always just floated the bags for 15 minutes and strained the fish out of the shipping water and dropped them in. No issues.

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