First. this takes a lot of patience. After weeks of being away and starving my monos (bought from a LFS) one finally gave in and started chomping down on massivore pellets. For thise wanting to pellet train, if you choose to starve your fish. dont ever give in and give them feeders. the mono is about 6-7" (eyeballin the size). now its time to get the other mono to eat pellets haha.