as the tital said i finaly did it i broke down and redid one of my tanks. took me four hours to redo a 29 gal tank lol got a lil ocd with it. if attachments worked this thread wuld work alot better but anyway. i took out all my black rock and used plain old sand for substrate got a bunch of river rocks and put in the bottome spaced out so stuff dosnt get stuck between them. re did plants as well it looks awsome imo. if any body knows if attachments are working let me know and i will post pics. me explaining does no justice to how this looks.