fish with a cyst where the nostril should be

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navygirl76

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Hey everyone,
I have a bumblebee that was in my 180 gallon mixed mbuna tank-about a month ago i noticed her right nostril looked like a fish may have bitten her-where the nostril should have been was a dented sore that was red (it looked like a small pin point ulcer in her nostril). I added more salt, did a good 50 percent waterchange and it looked like it was getting better. i was doing waterchanges on the 180 gallon every other week.

About 2 weeks ago I noticed that where her sore was all the sudden "bloomed" and bulged outward into a cyst type thing that was getting bigger. i immediately took her out, put her in a 10 gallon hospital tank and started medicating her with Jungle Fungus tank buddies.

she has gone through 4 rounds of Jungle fungus-and it just looks bigger, worse. I believe it is a secondary infection due to her being stressed (she is not being picked on that i see-but the tank is very active) and her sore developed a bad bacterial infection. the cyst looks firm- and i dont see stringy stuff coming off it like you would a fungal infection-it doenst look cottony or fluffy but hard and cystlike.

Im at a loss as to what to do. I have one local fish store in my town but can buy meds online.

my question is-have any of you seen this? i believe it is bacterial.
What is a good broad spectrum antibiotic? i have been told to use the jungle fungus, as true fungal infections are rare-and that most are bacterial infections. i even double dosed her yesterday, and its not improving.

should i use Maracyn Plus? what can i do? i dont want to euthanize her.

btw, the tank has been set up for a few years, i do weekly waterchanges now (i was doing them every other week 50 percent). my nitrates stay under 20ppm- i use Prime, some aquarium salt and feed my fish with NLS, krill, spirulina, zucchini, yellow squash, cucumber and a variety of food.

Everyone else in the tank is healthy, eating and active.

thanks so much! Mel

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Has all the aspect of a bacterial infection....I would try with antibiotics. But wait for more detailed and apt advice, Navygirl
 
thanks Miguel! i just dont know which antibiotics to use. i think i may try a round of Maracyn Plus. can i combine that with another antibiotic (erythromyacin?) i would try tetracycline-but that is mainly for gram negative rods- i wanted meds that attack and subdue BOTH gram positive and negative rods and keep them from reproducing-making that cyst break down.

thanks!
 
ill try to get a better pic. i dont see vascularity-it looks a little like cauliflower. i have been reading up on fish antibiotics and found this great page. from what i have been reading, triple sulfa is effective where most broad spectrums arent. i may try them. also, furan 2 and neomycin sulfate are both for ulcers, sores and skin disorders. However, aminoglycoside (which is neomycin sulfate CANNOT be combined with other drugs-most antibiotics cant be thrown together as they can become lethal and cancel the effectiveness of eachother out.)

everyone here is the site that i found. could it be made into a sticky? or would that not be legal?

http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/AquariumMedication2.html
 
i also learned that tetracycline is one of the LEAST effective meds for fish, Penicillin is for gram positive rods but is VERY narrow spectrum and not really designed for aquarium use. from what ive read Ampicillin isnt that great either.

Everyone raves about Maracyn plus, but it can cause kidney damage and is harder on marine and rift lake cichlids and not as effective.

that site had great info-id suggest everyone set it under your favorites so when you have a catastrophe in the tank it may help you pick what med works best. ill try to get a better pic tonite of her and post for you all. Thanks! Mel
 
i cant get a clearer pic of this fish due to the craptitude of my camera.

i have started treating it with triple sulfa drugs-since i have read they can work when other antibiotics fail. ill let you all know what happens..
 
ok so triple sulfa drugs dont work on cysts. i refuse to put any more money into this fish-ive probably spent over 45 bucks so far. im so frusterated.
 
im going to give Maracyn Plus a try, then im going to call it quits on this fish. i just am at a loss as to what to do anymore-thanks to you all for your help!
 
I don't have a clue but sure wish I did. I wish You and your fish the best of luck!!.
Jay
 
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