Florida Ocellaris?

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JuanTamad

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These are tank raised specimens of Florida PB caught from a lake in Miami.

They look like Ocellaris to me. Any other opinions?

There's a couple of other locally collected cichlids with them and a lobster. Most of them are in the 4 - 5 inch range. These are real monsters and had to be separated to this tank when they started eating their siblings.:eek:

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Juan, I'm gona be in miami next weekend im gona stop buy and pick some Pbass up if u dont mind :)
 
JuanTamad;518780; said:
They look like Ocellaris to me. Any other opinions?

.:eek:

ahhhhh the florida mungrel cichlas....a long debated and complex life history of the florida pbass juan.....I have caught pure looking ocellaris and ocellaris x monoculus from miami area. It goes way back when the original young were brought from several different locals in south america for the project...back then most were just refered to as occelaris...while there were groups of monoculus brought in also. after the initial stockings by paul and others of F&G a sample group was taken from the canals and lakes for futher breeding in boca raton..many belived to be monocs and ocellaris mixed for breeding and hybrid offspring produced and re-released....so you still will find adults of true ocellaris with a clean green body and eyespot on top of the 3rd bar, but many are more monoculus like with the black inking throughout their bodies and 3 distinct black bars....and then the "in-betweens" ones that show characteristics of both fish. Some say they were hybridized to better suit the florida environment...others say it was just lack of knowlege back then....dunno for sure,but most of the pbass by approx 10" can be differentiated for sure. The original temensis that were released did not breed as fast in the canals...some say they were too small for breeding...others say that fisherman would take the "new looking" bass to fish and game stations for ID and reporting..thus killing an adult in the process before it got to breed.....there are none of the original canal tems but some private pond owners do have them there. but as for ID on your pbass...I say that they are south florida cichla....Hammocks local :D
 
Oscarboyz;519470; said:
i have a question what are they eating and how many times per day are they being fed

Either Freeze dried Krill or meal worms in the AM and cut silversides or locally caught mosquito fish in the PM. I just recently added the meal worms and silversides to the feed variety last week. The other two cichlids are in there to help clean up the uneaten food, I got tired of having to cleanup after the feedings.
 
milkman407;519488; said:
Juan, I'm gona be in miami next weekend im gona stop buy and pick some Pbass up if u dont mind :)


Check your PM.
 
DIESELMACK;519712; said:
ahhhhh the florida mungrel cichlas....a long debated and complex life history of the florida pbass juan.....I have caught pure looking ocellaris and ocellaris x monoculus from miami area. It goes way back when the original young were brought from several different locals in south america for the project...back then most were just refered to as occelaris...while there were groups of monoculus brought in also. after the initial stockings by paul and others of F&G a sample group was taken from the canals and lakes for futher breeding in boca raton..many belived to be monocs and ocellaris mixed for breeding and hybrid offspring produced and re-released....so you still will find adults of true ocellaris with a clean green body and eyespot on top of the 3rd bar, but many are more monoculus like with the black inking throughout their bodies and 3 distinct black bars....and then the "in-betweens" ones that show characteristics of both fish. Some say they were hybridized to better suit the florida environment...others say it was just lack of knowlege back then....dunno for sure,but most of the pbass by approx 10" can be differentiated for sure. The original temensis that were released did not breed as fast in the canals...some say they were too small for breeding...others say that fisherman would take the "new looking" bass to fish and game stations for ID and reporting..thus killing an adult in the process before it got to breed.....there are none of the original canal tems but some private pond owners do have them there. but as for ID on your pbass...I say that they are south florida cichla....Hammocks local :D


Thanks for the reply DM.

The reason I posted this was they appear to be developing a gold ringed eyespot on the third bar hence my speculation or guess at them being Ocellaris. They are also growing not quite an eyespot on the other bars but showing gold borders on them.

On the bigger PB I've caught I've seen some of them with the eyespots on the third bar and some without. I'm also seeing a lot of big Cichlas around here with a lot of speckling all over their bodies. I've got one of these in a holding tank.

So, I guess they are different being hybrids and may only be found here in Rio JotaTeh, for JT or as you say Hammocks local.:) :ROFL:
 
That uropthalmus and the tilapia can be rough on your babies
 
armac;519783; said:
That uropthalmus and the tilapia can be rough on your babies

Not with these baby monsters. They are much too fast. They've been in the same tank for over a month.

They are actually very good feeders for my big PBs. For now they do a good job eating the baby PB's leftovers.
 
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