Other than at two inch I hardly ever see them in any stores near me in kent, By lists I assume you mean ordering them from somewhere/one? In my book if you can't go to a local fish shop and get one its rare!-) Hardly ever come up for sale at a decent size and I do an almost weekly round of the good fish shops in about an hour of me! Thanks , they seem to have paired up, been in there a fourtnight. Was colourless in the community in the store to the point where they thought he was a female, shaping up nicely!