Fresh to salt: 40 breeder

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I'm becoming ever so interested in the whole reef system. I'm thinking about turning my 40 breeder into a reef tank. Periodically of coarse. I'm starting a new topic here to hopefully get some much needed advice as to how to go about this. I read plenty of stickies everywhere as well just lurked on here. But I still need some help. I know I need some live rock, but how much is a "good" amount? Do I need to get live sand, or can I go a cheaper PFS route? Is RODI completely necessary? If it is what would be a good unit. And should I have a sump? I'm sure there's more questions, but we'll start it at that.
 
Personally if I did a 40 breeder reef setup the aquarium would be almost completely filled with live rock, my substrate most definitely live sand, the live rock and live sand is a ecosystem on a small scale. Most inverts such as corals are sensitive to nitrates that is one of the reasons the RODI systems l...The 40b filled thriving with coralline algae, soft , hard coral would look spectacular.:)
 
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40 pounds seems like it would be quite a bit, but j have no experience with live rock. I've never even held some to understand just how much a pound really is. I'm under the impression more is always better and that the expression less is more doesn't come into play here.
 
40 pounds seems like it would be quite a bit, but j have no experience with live rock. I've never even held some to understand just how much a pound really is. I'm under the impression more is always better and that the expression less is more doesn't come into play here.




Extactly, I would search for vendors with reasonable prices on live rock and go from there. Also research frags that would save you money also if you have the patience.
 
Do you want a tank with a lot of live rock or more open space? For biological filtration 15 pounds should be enough to keep up with a moderately stocked tank. If you want a simplistic look you can use rock, ceramic rings in a HOB filter or a sump.

No you do not need live sand. Your dry sand will turn into live sand. I used PFS with no issues for a deep sand bed.

I don't think RO/DI is necessary but it is one of those topics that is a never ending debate. Most pet stores will sell RO/DI for 1 a gallon, you might want to go that route.

A sump is a nice thing to have but it is not necessary. All my sumps turned into second tanks to house fish that wouldn't be good in my main tank. I stopped using sumps on my system and enjoy them so much more. Everything is so much cleaner and easier. Less evaporation and salt creep. I cut done on so much extra plugs such as a return pump, fuge light, powerheads and extra heaters. Sumps do have many advantages such as extra water volume, you can put a fuge in their and shake your macro algae in your tank to feed your fish pods and you can hide you equipment. If you have a 40 gallon tank to actually make a difference you will need a 25 gallon sump.

There are tons of ways to set up a tank. It is really up to you how complected you would want to make it and what you want out of the tank.

Here is my 40 breeder ran with HOB filters.Very minimal rock work. The picture is when I had a sump. The video was taken when I went sumpless. I like going sump less. There was no noticeable changes in my nitrate or the why my fish and coral appeared.

 
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Having entered the hobby with plain tap water and eventually ending in a crash I would say definitely get an RO/DI.
Once I wen't RO/DI I have never looked back, solved a heap of problems and the best thing is you control the quality of the water. With tap water you have absolutely no control over what is in it.
 
Tap water for my shark pond and for my reef tanks.

Having entered the hobby with plain tap water and eventually ending in a crash I would say definitely get an RO/DI.
Once I wen't RO/DI I have never looked back, solved a heap of problems and the best thing is you control the quality of the water. With tap water you have absolutely no control over what is in it.

Was the tap water the reason for the crash?
 
I'm looking for a more in depth tank. Something nice to look at with a whole lot of things going on. So probably a lot of rock work, and hopefully later on with some corals and plenty of smaller fish swimming around. The planted tank of the saltwater world?
 
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I'm looking for a more in depth tank. Something nice to look at with a whole lot of things going on. So probably a lot of rock work, and hopefully later on with some corals and plenty of smaller fish swimming around. The planted tank of the saltwater world?

Check out Tampa Bay Live Rock for your rock. You will get a near instant reef with them. There are other places that sell Caribbean rocks too. Google Live rock Florida/ Caribbeans/ Gulf of Mexico.

The cool thing about these rocks is that they are not taken from natural reefs. Companies will lease land which is nothing but sand, dump man made rocks and create an artificial reef. As they take rocks they replace them.
 
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