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Hi I have a 240 that I currently am running 3 FX 6 and 1 Eheim 2080. I would like to switch to a sump but don't feel comfortable drilling a full tank. Are the overflows like the CPR good and big enough? Also I would have to mount the overflow on the end vs back of the aquarium. Appreciate any advice, thank you!
 
How long have you had the tank and are you the original owner? I am not handy at all and frankly, I was able to drill multipe tanks. Just pay for a quality drill bit, watch the youtube videos and it is very easy. You just need to make sure the tank is not tempered glass.

I would stay away from those overflow boxes. The brand that was always flagged as the most reliable was Lifereef. If you google them you will see that they have tons of reviews. However, they are not cheap.
 
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How long have you had the tank and are you the original owner? I am not handy at all and frankly, I was able to drill multipe tanks. Just pay for a quality drill bit, watch the youtube videos and it is very easy. You just need to make sure the tank is not tempered glass.

I would stay away from those overflow boxes. The brand that was always flagged as the most reliable was Lifereef. If you google them you will see that they have tons of reviews. However, they are not cheap.
Thanks, yes I am the original owner. Tank is about 2 1/2 years old. 5/8" low iron not tempered. I will check out the Lifereef overflows. As far as best overflows for a drilled tank, what would you recommend?
 
I have actually never done an overflow/sump. I was heavily researching getting an overflow box when I had my 75g tanks. I ended up drilling my 75g tank to run an auto drip to it, and then experimented with a HMF corner filter before upgrading to a 535g tank that runs HMF filters and an ultima pond filter.
 
I have actually never done an overflow/sump. I was heavily researching getting an overflow box when I had my 75g tanks. I ended up drilling my 75g tank to run an auto drip to it, and then experimented with a HMF corner filter before upgrading to a 535g tank that runs HMF filters and an ultima pond filter.
Interesting, I am not sold on a sump, just want something better. I have never heard of the HMF filter, I will look into this. How do you like the ultima? What size do you have and what media do you have in it. That was something else I was considering.
 
I agree that drilling is easy, and you don't need to be worried about the breaking of siphon and overflowing the tank like you do with overflow boxes. Its all-out using gravity to send water to the sump, not siphon.
I have used the overflows, CPR, and others, but once I found out how easy drilling is, I never went back.
The CPRs need a pump to with draw air out or siphon breaks,

Above I am using the venturi tube on a powerhead to keep air from building up in the CPR siphon chamber, and breaking siphon.
As you can see, they are easily installed on the tank end.
Below another type overflow box mounted on the end of a tank.

I still prefer to drill though, I just take down the water to below where the hole will be, and drill with the fish in the tank.
You need a diamond coated drill bit, a template, and water to cool the area.

I prefer drilling on tank ends, so the return water from the sump enters on the opposite side mimicking the flow of a river across the length of the tank.
 
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HMF is nothing but a sponge filter on steroids. Not popular in the US but extremely popular in Europe, especially Germany where it originates from. It obviously varies with stock but the point of HMF is that you only clean it about once every 8-12 months. Some people dont like the look, but to me it is no worse than having covern overflow boxes. My tank has been running for about 20 months and I have not cleaned my HMF filters but thats because of low stocking and because I am running the ultima.

Ultima is a great filter. It is easy/hard to plumb depending on how you want to do it. I had my tank drilled but you can probably connect without drilling. The best thing with the ultima is the backflush. Saves an insane amount of time. However, not really possible to use on a tank like yours. I probably use between 100-150g to do backflush.
 
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This was my tank setup with the HMF and ultima.

 
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Hi I have a 240 that I currently am running 3 FX 6 and 1 Eheim 2080. I would like to switch to a sump but don't feel comfortable drilling a full tank. Are the overflows like the CPR good and big enough? Also I would have to mount the overflow on the end vs back of the aquarium. Appreciate any advice, thank you!

I think if you are thinking about a sump, one consideration could be using a ghost overflow box. The downside is you would have to drill, which I know you didn't want to.

Synergy Reed make nice ones that are rates 2500gph max. You would run a bean animal drain to your sump.
 
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I think if you are thinking about a sump, one consideration could be using a ghost overflow box. The downside is you would have to drill, which I know you didn't want to.

Synergy Reed make nice ones that are rates 2500gph max. You would run a bean animal drain to your sump.
Thank you, I will check those out!
 
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