My friend had to take down his 200 gallon tank and now these guys are the last of it's inhabitants. They are both around 2 1/2 years old and are big and wide. I'm not sure they're value big I figured around $150 for both. They'd be great for someone who wants polys and already has big fish. They'll eat anything sinking pellets massivor or whatever. pick up only or possibly we could meet you half way.