G. Crassilabris

[HrHagel]

Does anyone on here own or know anything about the Geophagus Crassilabris?

They will be available to me for purchase soon, but i would like to hear other people's opinions about the species before i go and do yet another impulsive purchase

I'm having a hard time finding quality and in-depth info about the species by googl'ing, so purhaps MFK can help me out here?

Here's a picture of one:

Thanks, Tom

 

[BigO6687]

daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

 

[Matthijs M]

Personally those are one of my favorite cichlids!

Depending on tank size, the best way to keep them is with 3 or more male's and several female's (6 / 7) ratio 1 male and 2 female's.
in smaller tank's it's better to keep them with just one male and several female's, ratio: 1 male and 3/4 females.

Never keep them with 2 male's, this almost always end with one male.
To other fish they are not aggresive, and make sure you dont combinate them with argessive fish.

They come from the east of Panama, and a smal population in Colombia. In Panama you can find them together with larger Poecilia sp, Astyanax sp, Characidium marschi, Saccodon dariensis, Sturisoma panamensis, Ancistrus chagresi, Andinoacara coeruleopunctatus, Amphilophus calobrense, Cryptoheros panamensis, ex"Cichlasoma" tuyrense, etc

Here are some pics of adult's ive kept:

Just curious, where can you get them and do you know where they come from?

 

[darth pike]

They have always been more common in Europe than they have in the states. I think they are the prettiest of the three 'red hump' species. Most of the info was stated in the above post. Treat them like red humps really that come from CA.

 

[HrHagel]

Personally those are one of my favorite cichlids!

Depending on tank size, the best way to keep them is with 3 or more male's and several female's (6 / 7) ratio 1 male and 2 female's.
in smaller tank's it's better to keep them with just one male and several female's, ratio: 1 male and 3/4 females.

Never keep them with 2 male's, this almost always end with one male.
To other fish they are not aggresive, and make sure you dont combinate them with argessive fish.

They come from the east of Panama, and a smal population in Colombia. In Panama you can find them together with larger Poecilia sp, Astyanax sp, Characidium marschi, Saccodon dariensis, Sturisoma panamensis, Ancistrus chagresi, Andinoacara coeruleopunctatus, Amphilophus calobrense, Cryptoheros panamensis, ex"Cichlasoma" tuyrense, etc

Here are some pics of adult's ive kept:

Just curious, where can you get them and do you know where they come from?

They have always been more common in Europe than they have in the states. I think they are the prettiest of the three 'red hump' species. Most of the info was stated in the above post. Treat them like red humps really that come from CA.

Very informative! Thankyou very much!

Sigh, i'm getting that feeling you all probably know of.. The feeling where you just know your wallet will inevitably be taking a big dent in it.

They are from a very cool vendor here in Denmark called "Unimati.biz" They were on his most recent import from "VerduijnCichlids" in Holland.
No info yet to where they were collected.

Btw, since you mention the Tuyrense as one of the species found in the same areas, do you think i could pull off having 1 or even a pair of these with them? I know the Tuyrensis are typically one of the more mellow Vieja's, but not sure if they would still murder the geos. ?

The tank i'm thinking they will go in is a 180G

 

[Matthijs M]

I already expected that, haha, you have brothers and sisters of the group I'm keeping now!

Verduijn got them from Jens Gottwald (aquatarium.de)
Jens his breeding group are wildcaught that Uwe Werner brought back, I think 6/7/ years ago. they where caught in the Rio Parti, from Panama-City toward Darien, beyond the Rio Bayano (pH8; KH

8; dGH 10; 30 bis 33 °C im April)

They where found with Andinoacara coeruleopunctatus, 'C.' panamensis, 'C.' calobrense, Sturisoma, Rineloriacaria Chaetostoma, Ancistrus (?), Saccodon und Boulengerella.

I have them in combination with sub-adult trio tuyrense! Both species dont bother eachother and go their own way. tuyrense are very active and always chasing eachother. They dont damaged therself, but are always busy!

 

[HrHagel]

Haha, small world

Very very nice information! And i'm thrilled to see you keep them with the Tuyrense!

Can you possibly post a full tank shot? Would love to see how you scaped for these fish

My GH is 16-17, so very hard, and my pH out of the tap is 8,4-8,8. I have attempted before to lower these values, but it turned out to be extremely expensive in the long run, when keeping nitrates at 5-10 (alot of big waterchanges)
Do you think they would still thrive in these conditions, or would i have to adjust the levels manually?

 

[Matthijs M]

I think your watercontition's will do fine!

 

[Dan F]

Gorgeous fish, I am definitely going to keep an eye open for these guys!