Gar ID - Part 2

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E_americanus

E_americanus

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here's another one...if you make a guess, please explain why you think it is that particular species. good luck--
--solomon

ps-- i'll post the answer/explanation to the previous one later today/tomorrow.

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spotted.... shares the same traits of my little spotteds i had. and the broadness of the snout that will later become shorter as the fish grows.
 
city_of_evil6661;2020739; said:
spotted.... shares the same traits of my little spotteds i had. and the broadness of the snout that will later become shorter as the fish grows.
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couple questions and comments:

- what were the traits of the spotted gars you had, and where did you get them from that you were certain they were spotted gars?

- it's not really possible to see broadness of the snout in a lateral view of a gar.
- in spotted gars, at least in some populations and possibly between the sexes, the snout does not become shorter as the fish grows, if anything it may stay proportional or even appear to increase in proportional length.--
--solomon

PS- don't be too mislead by the coloration of the fish...it's not red ;)
 
Again, either Florida or spotted. The snout looks longer a that size, imo.

The reason for my opinion is also because it looks similar in markings to my spotteds when babies.
 
E_americanus;2020773; said:
couple questions and comments:

- what were the traits of the spotted gars you had, and where did you get them from that you were certain they were spotted gars?

- it's not really possible to see broadness of the snout in a lateral view of a gar.
- in spotted gars, at least in some populations and possibly between the sexes, the snout does not become shorter as the fish grows, if anything it may stay proportional or even appear to increase in proportional length.--
--solomon

PS- don't be too mislead by the coloration of the fish...it's not red ;)
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they had they same snout and i got them from my LFS. they were brown with the light black stripe with a lack of pattern. and i know that they were F/S cuz either you or richard told me. i dont know what i was thinking when i said the snout gets shorter, i was half asleep. sorry about that one. and i know the fish isnt red.

my guess is F/S.
 
city_of_evil6661;2021004; said:
they had they same snout and i got them from my LFS. they were brown with the light black stripe with a lack of pattern. and i know that they were F/S cuz either you or richard told me. i dont know what i was thinking when i said the snout gets shorter, i was half asleep. sorry about that one. and i know the fish isnt red.

my guess is F/S.
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the red comment was for xander :)

in your most recent comment you said Florida/spotted, whereas initially i took it as you saying spotted specifically, and comparing it to spotteds from an LFS. keep in mind that LFS fishes are considered quite different from wild counterparts (it's probably clear at this point that the fish in the picture is a wild specimen). that also alludes to our developing theories that roughly 95% of the 'Florida/spotted' gars in the pet trade are indeed Florida gars. ongoing experiments will better support or refute those theories--
--solomon
 
E_americanus;2021110; said:
the red comment was for xander :)

in your most recent comment you said Florida/spotted, whereas initially i took it as you saying spotted specifically, and comparing it to spotteds from an LFS. keep in mind that LFS fishes are considered quite different from wild counterparts (it's probably clear at this point that the fish in the picture is a wild specimen). that also alludes to our developing theories that roughly 95% of the 'Florida/spotted' gars in the pet trade are indeed Florida gars. ongoing experiments will better support or refute those theories--
--solomon
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i wasnt thinking about the differences about LFS fish and their wild counterparts. i realize that the specimen in the pic is wild. this said could it be a platyrhincus?
 
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