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Right now in an old 70 (growout, upgrading in the late winter/spring) thats 4 feet long and i forget how wide at the moment. Current stock is an Ornate Bichir, Gold Dust Bichir, and Red Hi Fin Wolf (who i like to call Bloody Face after American Horror Story, because whenever you move him from tank to tank he jumps for the first night a lot, nothing crazy, never got out of tank but enough to bruise his snout up pretty good). Hes pretty docile from what ive heard for wolves, has the typical wolf curiosity and pushes my bichirs around a lil sometimes. Never bites though.

The fish i plan to purchase is FATF or forskahlii tiger, anyone think it really really has no chance? i dont want to sell my red, i love the lil guy but FATF.... is FATF haha. Ive gotten some input already in another thread but i would like this one to be just about the chances of the Red and FATF not co-existing well. I am willing to sell him in the long run if i cant get something setup for him in time. Hes my first characin, such an awesome interactive pred. I really hope him and the FATF get along

Sizes are Gold Dust: 6 inch (havent gotten an accurate measure but its a guess)
Ornate: 7 3/4 inch
Red Hi Fin: 6 3/4 inch
Forskahlii Tiger will be 6 inches

Just so everyone knows, im ready for this tiger. Been doing a ton of research, diet params growth rate temperment etc... So dont think im just going crazy real quick hahaa
 
I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. Just keep an eye on them. If the FATF is small enough that he could get swallowed by soemthing else, grow him out for a bit. Mine's been growing fairly quickly since he started taking freeze dried krill from the surface.
 
Thanks for the advice again chic, you are the characin sensei and the keeper of the biggest Goliath I've seen out of a public aquarium haha on here so I trust your opinion. I'm going to run the numbers on my flow soon, I know they like a nice flow but I need to figure out how to run the flow while leaving a slack for my bichirs and wolf to chill in.

I'm so pumped for this guy. Can't wait to be able to post a pic of the tiger and wolf swimming together! Should be by next weekend. Then I'm only adding a teugelsi bichir or retropinnis, whichever is the better deal at the better size. Or both if anyone thinks I could get away with that bio load haha

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I'd have an extra tank ready. IF that's not possible I wouldn't do it.

Many people out there, especially vendors have a hard time accurately measuring fish. Your 6" and a 6" Tiger from a vendor might be 3" apart. Atf are very slender when little. And when Wolves feel like they have a chance at something, they can surprise you at what they're capable of.
 
Great advice from DB as always.

A 70 gallon tank is absolutely fine for the size of the fish going into it.

Pole, use the edit button. Stop double posting.

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DB junkie said:
I'd have an extra tank ready. IF that's not possible I wouldn't do it.

Many people out there, especially vendors have a hard time accurately measuring fish. Your 6" and a 6" Tiger from a vendor might be 3" apart. Atf are very slender when little. And when Wolves feel like they have a chance at something, they can surprise you at what they're capable of.
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I do! I have a 40 running, and my wolf wont eat things with a large tail. Idk if thats a normal thing but when i tried feeding lyretail mollies he wouldnt even go after em. Not even a nip on em after a whole week. So i cut off their tails (sorry if you dont like this but i didnt want a group of mollies in the tank) and then the bichir and wolf got on em. He wont even eat any adult male fancy guppys i breed. Only females.

Anyone experience this with their ery ery before? Idk if it makes him think he cant swallow it or what but he leaves em alone.



Pole said:
the tank is way too small for a tiger fish, I would forget it
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As was stated, this is a growout. Derp. And FATF only get about 10-12 inches on average, obviously there are larger aquaria specimens but thats the norm. It would never even be longer then the width of the 70, if it was staying in there for life
 
Chicxulub said:
Great advice from DB as always.

A 70 gallon tank is absolutely fine for the size of the fish going into it.

Pole, use the edit button. Stop double posting.

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I don't think a fish which can get to two feet can go in a 70 gal.. BTW sorry for double posting when I try to edit it crashes
 
BuffaloPolypteridae said:
I do! I have a 40 running, and my wolf wont eat things with a large tail. Idk if thats a normal thing but when i tried feeding lyretail mollies he wouldnt even go after em. Not even a nip on em after a whole week. So i cut off their tails (sorry if you dont like this but i didnt want a group of mollies in the tank) and then the bichir and wolf got on em. He wont even eat any adult male fancy guppys i breed. Only females.

Anyone experience this with their ery ery before? Idk if it makes him think he cant swallow it or what but he leaves em alone.





As was stated, this is a growout. Derp. And FATF only get about 10-12 inches on average, obviously there are larger aquaria specimens but thats the norm. It would never even be longer then the width of the 70, if it was staying in there for life
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that is cos then it would be stunted, and really tigerfish aint really appropriate for aquaria. they are a robust and fast species and I would keep them in ATLEAST a 450 gal
 
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