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http://www.app.com/article/20111018...d-for-keeping-giant-tortoises-in-his-backyard
After the Ohio incident now seems to on fashion picking on exotics keepers to the point of absurdity. This men had its beloved giant tortoises removed for reasons that for me at least are not clear. He had cruelty charges put on him, they say he had no permit to keep the animals, etc. Does anybody knows if there was a permit needed? This is a cites 2 animal (no permits need in US whatsoever), its not a dangerous animal of any sort, what kind of permits would be needed?! Ive seen the photos, I would change a thing here and there in the enclosures but they were passable, clean, and there seems to be plenty of land available for inpruvement and also this family just moved in, it would be understandable that the animals wouldnt be in "spotless" enclosures. AND the animals shells seem in prime condition which indicates long term very good quality diet. The news indicate 2 animals had a respiratory condition.... I DONT SEE ANY SIGNS OF IT IN THE PHOTOS but ok. And why cant they be treated by the owner once detected? I mean arent this people just confiscating extremelly valuable animals because they are able to!? What gives them power to do so? There just seems to be NO POWERFULL enough argument to do so! Ive seen aldabras in worse conditions in zoos. And why hasnt this situation brough more atention in the reptile community? This kind of "#% MAKE ME MAD!
 
The ohio incident was horrible, now this?! wtf...the tortoises look to be in great health. Seems to me their just making up excuses as to why they are taking them. The ohio incident was very wrong though, killing baby giraffes? cmon now...wtf is wrong with them
 
http://www.app.com/article/20111018...d-for-keeping-giant-tortoises-in-his-backyard
After the Ohio incident now seems to on fashion picking on exotics keepers to the point of absurdity. This men had its beloved giant tortoises removed for reasons that for me at least are not clear. He had cruelty charges put on him, they say he had no permit to keep the animals, etc. Does anybody knows if there was a permit needed? This is a cites 2 animal (no permits need in US whatsoever), its not a dangerous animal of any sort, what kind of permits would be needed?! Ive seen the photos, I would change a thing here and there in the enclosures but they were passable, clean, and there seems to be plenty of land available for inpruvement and also this family just moved in, it would be understandable that the animals wouldnt be in "spotless" enclosures. AND the animals shells seem in prime condition which indicates long term very good quality diet. The news indicate 2 animals had a respiratory condition.... I DONT SEE ANY SIGNS OF IT IN THE PHOTOS but ok. And why cant they be treated by the owner once detected? I mean arent this people just confiscating extremelly valuable animals because they are able to!? What gives them power to do so? There just seems to be NO POWERFULL enough argument to do so! Ive seen aldabras in worse conditions in zoos. And why hasnt this situation brough more atention in the reptile community? This kind of "#% MAKE ME MAD!

I know that a permit was needed since he's in New Jersey. It doesn't help New Jersey has some of the most screwed up exotic animal laws out there; you must have a permit to own any reptile beyond maybe a dozen species of species that are exempt from a permit per their laws.

To be honest, I'm getting really tired of these governments and organizations taking this type of thing too far.
 
I think the zoo just wanted some rare tortoises...
 
Opportunists who have just banked on incident, with tradition as an excuse. Hate these people, please die.
 
I think the zoo just wanted some rare tortoises...
Sometimes in this and other cases here I think just that... I think the owner should have figthed harder for its animals, started a petition online, alerting pro-keepers organizations and spreding the word everywhere.
 
Sometimes in this and other cases here I think just that... I think the owner should have figthed harder for its animals, started a petition online, alerting pro-keepers organizations and spreding the word everywhere.

it looked like he wasn't speaking to the press to keep his name out of it as much as he could. Cruelty charges stick to your feet.
 
That, and when the government throws $20,000 in possible fines in your face (in addition to animal cruelty charges), you tend to back down and be thankful you "got off" with only a couple thousand in losses, plus losing the tortoises.
 
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