Getting my Jurs off live (guppies)

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From YT (under video “Last of 11 adult tig catfish, 2015-2022, 3 lost to accidents, 8 to some bug(?), a hurtful experience”):

Brachyplatystoma_juruense: Thank you so much for keeping this video available. Losing an 8-year-old Tig that you cared for over so many years is deeply heartbreaking.

In the past, I also lost one of my own specimens to this exact same tragic progression—a long hunger strike followed by sudden neurological failure and uncontrolled spinning. Thanks to your detailed recording, I was finally able to confirm that my past loss was not a swim bladder issue, but a systemic and neurological failure unique to this genus. It has been immensely helpful and provided real answers for my own fishkeeping journey.

I deeply respect your willingness to share such a painful experience to help keepers like myself learn from it.

Fish-Story: Thank you for that. Since that video I've learned more, actually same year, Nov 2022, I've learned that what had killed our tigs and many other fish was a deficiency of vitamin B1! (Have videos and writeups to prove this beyond any doubt). ... I was NOT supplementing enough their diet of frozen fish, all of which had a varying amount of thiaminase in them. I was not supplementing at all for many years, and after that I was not supplementing enough with VitaChem. These days I supplement enough with VitaChem (presoak thawed fish in VitaChem solution) and add a hearty dose of pure powder of B1 to the soaking solution too. This is the key. 100% sure now. No mystery. No unknown bacteria or parasites or virus. HTH.
 
don't feed fish guppies or goldfish Viktor... ever ..... I used big earthworms on tongs and then Angelfish culls on tongs and eventaully frozen minows on tongs .... never got them to pellets ever but that's ok ...these fish are not designed to keep in those circumstances
 
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Thank you. You are probably responding the the first posts and the feeding problem described therein from back in 2013.
Yes, tongs training is one proven technique.
 
Jurs are tougher than tigs. Heart-aching and heart-breaking lesson.

Lost four 10-12 inch tigs over 2 months. Overall from 10 tigs to 4 as of now and one teetering on the death's edge for a few weeks already. All 6 lost to stress.

Jurs are from 9 to 7 but not due to stress.

 
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