First time dat owner here. I bought a pair of 8 inch dats off a great fishkeeper. He has widebars! just not for sale. So i read alot about them and they seem like cool fish. Very stable and super cool. I will posts pics soon. Any tips? The owner feed them hikari carnivore sinking. He said they would be shy for a few days, they are not being shy at all. Swimming about with confidence. Great another type of fish i love.