Grammodes isn't eating?

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florencejr11

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I have grammodes Cichlid that's about 3" in a 60 he/she shares a tank with a jag that's anywhere from .75 to a inch the jag is a baby and the grammodes doesn't even pay attention to it. Also a galaxy Pleco. My grammodes just stop eating recently.. I'll feed him half a night crawler when im going to my girlfriends house to help with our son. Reason I did that is because I just felt a night crawler will fill the grammodes up and it keeps it occupied. Came back after two days and now this dude don't want nothing. Pellets, blood worms, krill, or worms. But jag is eating everything. Water is fine. I passed my water test. Now it just hides and stays in one spot for about 5-10 minutes before moving to another spot he does this for about 30 mins then he goes into a cave and just lays at the bottom. Whenever I see a fish that's not a bottom dweller at the bottom I feel like something is wrong with it especially if my other fish are swimming around. Pls help I don't want to loose my grammodes. I added two pics I took the night before. Hopefully someone with an eye can spot something or just another grammodes owner can give me feedback.

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Sorry for the pics and not getting a body shot but that's what I mean when he/she stays in one spot it wouldn't move for like 15 mins and I had to leave to help attend with my son.
 
It could stay in the 10 for a bit. Long term a 60 will get very cramped for any one of those fish, even more so together, but that is a later issue. 2 days is a safe amount of time, usually it can be due to cichlids being cichlids, and will go back to food later. Did it move after being forced to or was it completely still?
Many cichlids go through a skittish, hiding phase until getting much larger.
It is possible it contracted a parasite from the nightcrawler if it was live, but hard to tell at this point. Any white stringy poo? Or just addicted to it and won’t eat anything else.
Might be being bullied by the jag, but I’d bet that it would win at these sizes.
My initial thought is that it is fine and just being the PITA that cichlids are.
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All the grammodes I've kept (about 8) have been consummate hiders, they'd only come out to strike at food, then quickly back to their hole.
Or when they are guarding fry, to protect them as the fry school. They are lurk and strike predators.
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The pair above killed any other fish I tried to house with it, cichlids, dithers like live bearers, it didn't matter.
I had a friend who kept a pair with other cichlids, but the tank was a 240 gal, and the grammodes owned about a third of it, allowing no trespassers
 
It could stay in the 10 for a bit. Long term a 60 will get very cramped for any one of those fish, even more so together, but that is a later issue. 2 days is a safe amount of time, usually it can be due to cichlids being cichlids, and will go back to food later. Did it move after being forced to or was it completely still?
Many cichlids go through a skittish, hiding phase until getting much larger.
It is possible it contracted a parasite from the nightcrawler if it was live, but hard to tell at this point. Any white stringy poo? Or just addicted to it and won’t eat anything else.
Might be being bullied by the jag, but I’d bet that it would win at these sizes.
My initial thought is that it is fine and just being the PITA that cichlids are.
duanes duanes kno4te kno4te Gourami Swami Gourami Swami
Rocksor Rocksor
Let’s get some of the best here though.
I'm aware of the 60 not being big enough for both cichlids the jag will be going to my dads he has a 150 with an Oscar. I just want him to be bigger. I hardly fed nightcrawlers cause of the risk of parasites. And it stays still almost looking like it's floating for about 15 mins before swimming to the other side of tank only to repeat the same thing then he goes in the cave and lays at the bottom . As far as poop I haven't seen poop in a couple of days tbh. Home Rn threw in some San Francisco Bay krill and he spat it out .
 
All the grammodes I've kept (about 8) have been consummate hiders, they'd only come out to strike at food, then quickly back to their hole.
Or when they are guarding fry, to protect them as the fry school. They are lurk and strike predators.
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The pair above killed any other fish I tried to house with it, cichlids, dithers like live bearers, it didn't matter.
I had a friend who kept a pair with other cichlids, but the tank was a 240 gal, and the grammodes owned about a third of it, allowing no trespassers
I wanted him/her to be in the 60 by himself but it's when I added this baby jag he just stopped eating . Like he doesn't bully the jag or nothing I'm pretty sure he doesn't even see the jag as a threat (yet) but ever since this lil jag was introduced he just stopped eating.
 
I wanted him/her to be in the 60 by himself but it's when I added this baby jag he just stopped eating . Like he doesn't bully the jag or nothing I'm pretty sure he doesn't even see the jag as a threat (yet) but ever since this lil jag was introduced he just stopped eating.

It could be stressed out by just having the jag there or the jag may have brought a parasite with it. Move some biological media into the 10g, and keep the jag there for a couple of weeks (watching the cycle). See if the grammodes becomes like its old self.

2 days of you being gone is enough time for the jag to have annoyed the grammodes enough into hiding.
 
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