Gravel substrate -- was I unlucky?

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Rynofasho

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Hi all -- so I've been keeping fish for about two years now, however I'm the type of person who researches things to the brink of obsession, so I've learned a lot in that time.

When I was first starting out, I used your typical gravel substrate you'd find at any LFS. I cycled the tank properly, I had a fairly weak bioload, and I did 30% water changes weekly, vacuuming the substrate thoroughly each time.

Even though I was very diligent in cleaning the tank (36 gallon bowfront with an AC50 which I now know was insufficient filtration, even for some Zebra Danios and Cory cats), I ended up with Ich twice during my adventures in gravel. I didn't lose many fish, however I've always used play sand subsequently as A) I still keep many species of Cories and more importantly B) I feel a bit gunshy to try gravel again. The thing I noticed was that no matter how much I vacuumed, there was always still a decent layer of detritus on the very bottom of the aquarium that it just wasn't very feasible to reach. Leading up to my switch to play sand, I was getting over the Ich still so I was doing large water changes and vacuuming every day or every other day in order to maintain the proper level of meds.

When I actually made the swap, I was shocked to see the amount of crap that was still at the bottom of the tank. I prefer the sand now because all the poo stays on top of the sand and it's easier to keep it clean.

So my questions is, was I just really unlucky to have Ich outbreaks twice in the short time that I had gravel, or is it really that much harder to keep it really clean (and does having a small permanent layer of detritus below the substrate really pose that much of a threat)?

FYI I can't recall what I was doing in terms of adding stock at the time and I didn't QT, but the first outbreak happened well after I had the tank stocked.
 
that build up shouldn't be the source of ich.. but i agree, using sand instead of gravel is much more easier on the maintenance.

meds might or might not help with the ich. bumping the temperature to 86+ will kill ich. people, including myself keep it at this temperature for at least 3 days before lowering it little by little, back to your normal temp. as for the source of ich.. well, it was probably the whole not QT thing that did it.
 
gravel does not cause ich. I've had gravel bottomed tanks that never had it, and I've had bare bottom tanks that have.
 
I know, I wasn't making a direct association between gravel and a parasite, just wondering how much the extra detritus can contribute to any sort of outbreak in a tank.
 
Ich can occur in a bare bottomed tank. It has nothing to do with sand or gravel or detritus for that matter. Personally, I hate sand. I have gravel in most of my 30+ tanks. If you gravel vac while doing water changes, gravel is easy to maintain.
 
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