Gulper and stingray ?

[giar]

Sup folks,

Currently i have my 15cm gulper in the clean water chamber of my sump. It is quiet big, 40cm x 60cm cross section area. The water level is typically 40cm tall.

Im thinking to move my 20cm BD ray with the gulper temporarily until he gains some weight and a bit bigger to compete for food with the other rays in the main display tank.

Currently he is the smallest among my other rays and he always get the least food.

Would this be a good or bad idea?

Here is the pic of my clean water chamber to get u the idea how big it is, even for the gulper itself lol

 

[moe214]

It'd be risky for both, gulper could be stabbed on one hand, ray can easily be folded and consumed on the other; possibly be stabbed when consuming and lose both. Or it could work out just fine, maybe the gulper won't try because the ray appears to big, than again never trust a catfish.

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

I don't know. Having never kept rays doesn't help me. I've read all kinds of stories about gulpers and about rays. From that perspective, I'd think what you have in mind is rather safe, given their comparable sizes, but no one can take away the gambling part.

 

[Just Toby]

My mature ray would eat that gulper for breakfast. The catfish needs to be bigger than the disc of the ray or it will pin it sooner or later, there are always exceptions but my gentle female ray ate a 7 inch tigrinus recently.

 

[Just Toby]

A ray very rarely stabs another fish with its sting, the fish would have to be seriously bothering it or attacking it.

Any fish that can fit another in its mouth will eat the smaller fish but that would have to be a huge gulper and a small ray.

 

[moe214]

A ray very rarely stabs another fish with its sting, the fish would have to be seriously bothering it or attacking it.

Any fish that can fit another in its mouth will eat the smaller fish but that would have to be a huge gulper and a small ray.

Just to counter you for reality of the risk. Polys have been stabbed "on accident" by rays plenty of times, and I've never seen, personally, a poly aggressive to anything non-poly, and even when it is to another poly its not like the aggression you typically think of like say from a cichlid; not constant. But I'm not into rays personally, this is just from YouTube videos and the poly section. So you may very well be right.

As far as the gulper having to be significantly bigger, I disagree. Gulpers have been known to fold a fish up in their mouth if need be. To clarify they don't fold it purposely but they force it in and the fish will fold. A ray isn't very hard bodied. Just my thoughts. Not saying it is impossible to make it work, these are just the risks that come with it.

 

[giar]

Ok so i decided to go ahead to put them together but with a tank divider

The ray got skinny because he didnt get enuff food in the display tank

 

[moe214]

I think they'll be alright together with that size reference gulper is no more than 2.5' maybe 3' away from the camera I'd say looks thick enough not to be food to the Ray but still up to you on the risk of it being stabbed