Harvesting Biofilter Bacteria ?

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terrypowerz

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Myself and another MFK member were discussing the commonly used method of using media from an established biofilter to help get a new biofilter "going"...

The question for those that are more familiar with the actual bacteria themselves...
Can this be harvested by say draining filter media into a container and storing it for future use?
Or does the bacteria die off quickly because of a lack of the proper conditions to sustain it?
Would refrigeration have any effect on the possibility of storage?
 
You would need to keep it wet with sufficient water and keep it aerated this can be done for a short while, just an educated guess and adding a food source should work.
I would think refrigeration would prolong it as well .
 
fishnutham;751839; said:
You would need to keep it wet with sufficient water and keep it aerated this can be done for a short while, just an educated guess and adding a food source should work.
I would think refrigeration would prolong it as well .

Justy to clarify...i was talking about draining excess water (and all the other "goodness") from the filter media to keep as "seed" ;)
 
As soon as you stop the circulation of aerated water with the "food" stuffs, the bacteria start to die off, several hours at the most and your going to loose atleast 50% for the critters. Most of the bacteria are attached to the bio-material in colonies and the gunk you drain off of the filter material is just that gunk - fish waste, deteriorating food, algae and some bacteria if you don't clean the filter regularly.

Refrigerating it won't do much good either without the above.

The bacteria that you buy in the stores are specially treat and encapsulated to basically keep it in a state of suspended animation for a length of time.

It's an interesting read if you have the time (like if there's a football game on :D ).

Dr Joe

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Dr Joe;752238; said:
As soon as you stop the circulation of aerated water with the "food" stuffs, the bacteria start to die off, several hours at the most and your going to loose atleast 50% for the critters. Most of the bacteria are attached to the bio-material in colonies and the gunk you drain off of the filter material is just that gunk - fish waste, deteriorating food, algae and some bacteria if you don't clean the filter regularly.

Refrigerating it won't do much good either without the above.

The bacteria that you buy in the stores are specially treat and encapsulated to basically keep it in a state of suspended animation for a length of time.

It's an interesting read if you have the time (like if there's a football game on :D ).

Dr Joe

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Thanks thats what i was trying to say but you worded it much better..
 
The principles of biological filtration

Biological filtration is an essential requirement of any recirculating fish holding facility. Its primary function is to break down toxins excreted by fish. Ammonia is a dissolved toxin released by fish metabolism that breaks down to form nitrite. Both ammonia and nitrite are toxic to fish. Biofilters are designed to remove these compounds from the water by the use of nitrifying bacteria. One group of bacteria, the Nitrosomonas bacteria, can convert ammonia to nitrite, and another group, the Nitrobacter bacteria, convert nitrite to the relatively non-toxic compound, nitrate (see page 6 for acceptable levels).

Most biofilters have substrates made of coarse gravel shell or sponge which provide a large surface area. The substrate is impregnated, either naturally or artificially with nitrifying bacteria and the water is passed through the substrate, where the ammonia and nitrite are broken down by the bacteria.

There are several points to remember when setting up a biological filtration system to gain maximum efficiency:

The filter bed requires several weeks conditioning, using a small number of animals in the tank, to introduce the necessary bacteria. If this is not done, then the inoculation of commercially available bacterial preparations will be required.
In order to operate efficiently, the biofilter requires oxygen. The breakdown of ammonia stops if the dissolved oxygen level falls below 2mg O2/L, so it is vital that the water entering the biofilter be as close to oxygen saturation as possible.
Optimal temperature for the bacteria is 28oC-36oC although they will operate quite effectively at lower temperatures.They will, however die at 58oC and stop growing in any biofilter held below 12oC.The optimum pH for the bacteria is pH 8. However, in cases where ammonia levels have become dangerously high, the toxicity is reduced if the pH is dropped to 6. It is therefore necessary to maintain a balance between these two factors.
To maximise the bacterial efficiency, the substrate must be evenly covered with the flow of water.
Biofilters should not be shock loaded (i.e., a large number of animals placed in the system at one time, excreting a large volume of waste products).
The amount of bacteria established in the filter will only operate efficiently for the previously established stocking density. If more animals are required to be added to the system, they should be introduced gradually to allow the bacteria time to multiply.

If large volumes of solids are being produced, it may be necessary to install a sedimentation tank. This will remove any solid particles from the water before it enters the biofilter. These tanks are designed to allow a slow water flow which enables the solid particles to settle on the bottom where they are tapped or siphoned out of the system.

It should be noted that in situations where shock loading occurs such as crayfish purging tanks, biological filtration can be very hard to manage and if the water is available, a flow-through system is recommended.

Linky- http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/pub/WaterQualityDisease/index.php?0408
 
terrypowerz;751824; said:
Myself and another MFK member were discussing the commonly used method of using media from an established biofilter to help get a new biofilter "going"...

The question for those that are more familiar with the actual bacteria themselves...
Can this be harvested by say draining filter media into a container and storing it for future use?
Or does the bacteria die off quickly because of a lack of the proper conditions to sustain it?
Would refrigeration have any effect on the possibility of storage?

Easiest way to "store" bacteria for use in another tank is to have an extra sponge filter in an established tank...

I cut up an established sponge filter and put it in one of the trays of my fx5 when i added 7 new fish at once... no spike :D
 
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