Has anyone had success?

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Breeding their rbp's
I was just watching mine this morning and was just curious if anyone on here has done this?
If so what did you have to do? I know they usually spawn during the rainy season in the wild. How would you replicate this in an aquarium setting?
I have also read that it is hard to sex the p's.
 
a lot of times with natts, you don't have to do anything special, they just spawn after they become sexually mature. usually a nice big tank with excellent water quality is required and then a large volume water change using cooler water can spark breeding behavior.

natts are not sexually dimorphic, so sexing them before they spawn is impossible.

if you are planning on having a successful spawn, you need to be prepared well ahead of time with a proper set up for handling the fry, which will consist of at least one decent sized tank or multiple smaller tanks for holding the fry... you will need to have sponge filters for these tanks that have been running in your main tank a few weeks ahead of time to make sure that they have been seeded with bacteria.

once your natts have spawned and you are sure the eggs have been fertilized, fill the fry tank using water from the main tank, then transfer the eggs and the sponge filters over to the fry tank. you will have to maintain excellent water quality in the fry tanks and feed the fry baby brine shrimp... its good to experiment with hatching your own baby brine shrimp ahead of time so that you have the process down before you have fry. as they get bigger, you can switch over to a high quality flake food or small pieces of raw shrimp.

it requires a lot of time and effort if you want to end up successful, but after a few spawns, you should end up with a pretty large amount of baby natts from each spawn.
 
You can sex them by looking staight down at them from the top of the water. Females are wider. Best to do before you feed them. Not hard to breed them just hard to raise the babies. Food must be present for the the fry almost all the time. I would leave chunks of fresh fish it the tank for the babies to nibble at. You just have to change it out once or twice a day before it spoils the water.
 
mdzamko;3528221; said:
You can sex them by looking staight down at them from the top of the water. Females are wider. Best to do before you feed them. Not hard to breed them just hard to raise the babies. Food must be present for the the fry almost all the time. I would leave chunks of fresh fish it the tank for the babies to nibble at. You just have to change it out once or twice a day before it spoils the water.
you cannot sex them 100% of the time without watching them spawn... plain and simple.
 
There is another forum where a lot of members breed all kinds of P's. Here's a link to their breeding section. Alot of people there have even bred serrasalmus species.


http://www.piranha-cove.com/forum1/index.php?showforum=9

It's pretty hard to sex piranhas in general, but when they're going to breed they take on a breeding coloration and get darker. Here are some pics of that breeding color change.

http://www.piranha-cove.com/forum1/index.php?showtopic=8424

Simulating the rain cycle is a good way to breed them. Basically what you do is simulate the same environment you see in the amazon, and it works for most SA fish, not just piranhas. For part of the year you need to simulate a dry season. Most people lower water levels, reduce water changes, increase the tank temp into the 80's, stop regular feeding, and let the tank go a little south. When this happens, they'll get aggressive behavior and may lose some fish. After a certain amount of time (I think about 3 months) you start adding water that is cooler than the tank water by a few degrees. Some people use a spray bar or plant waterer to simulate rain. This increases O2 levels in the water. Then you start doing big water changes with the cooler water, and start feeding a high protein diet. Certain members of your shoal should transition into breeding dress and lay eggs. You should use a breeding mop or water hyacinths (what they is in the wild) to catch the eggs and then remove them to a breeding tank. To my knowledge P's don't raise their young.

Here's a link from that same forum about simulating the dry season:

http://www.piranha-cove.com/forum1/index.php?showtopic=3895

http://www.piranha-cove.com/forum1/index.php?showtopic=6778&st=0&p=56156&fromsearch=1&#entry56156

http://www.piranha-cove.com/forum1/index.php?showtopic=9

Good luck, and keep us updated.
 
wow very simple but also very expencive and hard 2 keep fry alive
 
dim the light, a candle light dinner with fresh seafood, play a little romantic music then few days late you get fry :)
 
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