Has anyone kept Natives (besides Sunfish) in tropical temps?

[Loganfish]

Hello! I have some natives (shiners, minnows, Northern Hogsuckers, Blackstripe Topminnow, Darters, etc) and want to move some to my 55 gallon. The temp there is 80-86 degrees F. Most of these fellas can handle those temps but want other people’s experiences first to verify.

 

[wednesday13]

Hello! I have some natives (shiners, minnows, Northern Hogsuckers, Blackstripe Topminnow, Darters, etc) and want to move some to my 55 gallon. The temp there is 80-86 degrees F. Most of these fellas can handle those temps but want other people’s experiences first to verify.

What are u keeping non native that u think needs to be at 80-86 degrees? Anything “tropical” IMO does just fine at 76-78 max. I personally run 72-76 year round. Ive bred rays at 72-74 np.

 

[Loganfish]

What are u keeping non native that u think needs to be at 80-86 degrees? Anything “tropical” IMO does just fine at 76-78 max. I personally run 72-76 year round. Ive bred rays at 72-74 np.

I’ve just kept my tropicals that temp regularly. Just lowered to around 75-80 ish.

 

[Hybridfish7]

Most fish (save for amazonian things and some African stuff) do better at room temp. Nothing else should realistically be kept at 86 year round. Causes all sorts of issues with bloating or rapid/poor aging. That said anything from the southeast is fine with any temp it normally gets down there. Things from more northern rivers are a 50/50, like longear/redbreast sunfish spawn here when the water hits like 80F+, but trout and some darter species will die at this temperature because it can't naturally hold enough oxygen at that temp. It is also only getting this temperature for a cumulative like 2 months out of the year. Some colder water species you can get away with keeping slightly above their 60F requirements by just keeping them with really high oxygen but don't get any ideas.

 

[tlindsey]

darter species will die

100% agree

 

[jjohnwm]

The whole focus of keeping aquarium fish is to provide them with water conditions and parameters that approximate what they experience in nature. Don't decide what those conditions will be based upon convenience or thriftiness or other irrelevant justifications, and then expect the fish to magically adapt to suit your whims.

If you want to keep a specific type of fish...provide the conditions they require. If you must provide different conditions...choose a fish that is suited to those conditions. It's a revolutionary idea, I know, but it makes life much easier for you and better for the fish.

 

[TwoHedWlf]

Hello! I have some natives (shiners, minnows, Northern Hogsuckers, Blackstripe Topminnow, Darters, etc) and want to move some to my 55 gallon. The temp there is 80-86 degrees F. Most of these fellas can handle those temps but want other people’s experiences first to verify.

I have decided if my tank does crash and my current fish die I'll rebuild it into a native tank. Get a chiller and I could keep a few redfin bullies, maybe a giant kokopu and some crabs. But of course catching them would be an issue. Might have to just keep what I can catch.