Heating a pool

[nitrofish1]

I've been pondering with my shed pond idea for a while today. Although I am not the first to think of it, in an effort to save some money without really sacrificing quality too much, I was looking online and found some pools.

I considered this pool for koi, since it is about the same dimensions as the pond as I would be cementing in.
http://www.target.com/Intex-Ultra-F...=1&searchSize=30&id=Intex Ultra Frame Pool 24

But I found this pond, approx. 5k gallons, that looks real sharp, would have to do some RTC in it or the like.
http://www.target.com/Intex-Wood-Gr...owse=0&index=target&rh=k:swimming pool&page=1

If I attached some Ultima Filters to these pools, where do the heaters go? And do they need to be insulated for the winter?

 

[nitrofish1]

was thinking that I could do two of the wood grained pools for a tropical pond and a koi pond. Would they be large enough for either one?

 

[Muni]

5,000 gallons is large enough for just about anything comfortably. You could keep a Giga in there if you wanted for quite a while. Be prepared for much flaming though.

If you were to find one of those pools returned with a broken pump or something you could get one MUCH cheaper.

I have one of the intex pools. 24' that had no pump. Got it for 300 bucks cause of no pump. But I had a way better setup on hand already so it worked out for me and they got the odd piece of inventory out of their way.

 

[Muske]

Don't know how far you are from McHenry/CL/Johnsburg, but I saw a company on Rt.31, going north from Crystal Lake, that sells performed fiberglass pools. They got my wheels turning thinking they would make an awesome indoor pond/pool. I'm assuming they have many styles and sizes avail. and I would think you could work some sort of deal.

Judging by the size of Inatex pools you were looking at, the pool I saw otside would fit your dimensions.

 

[nitrofish1]

Don't know how far you are from McHenry/CL/Johnsburg, but I saw a company on Rt.31, going north from Crystal Lake, that sells performed fiberglass pools. They got my wheels turning thinking they would make an awesome indoor pond/pool. I'm assuming they have many styles and sizes avail. and I would think you could work some sort of deal.

Judging by the size of Inatex pools you were looking at, the pool I saw otside would fit your dimensions.

Crystal Lake is kinda a drive for me.

Just was thinking of doing these pools cuz it would be much much cheaper than have a cement pond poured inside a shed.

Dont think I would go with a Gigas, but that pond would be for RTC's.

The Other pool is for some Koi, but this pond would not require heating to keep its natural cycle of seasons, yet without freezing over.

Just wanted to know how to keep a pool with a RTC at its intended temp over winter. It would be shielded from wind and such but I'm not sure if it would need insulation above what the heated water would provide.

 

[Lissaspence]

For how cold it gets here if you want an RTC outside in a pond I would think you would need some massive insulation or a really kick *** heater (although then you have the electric bills for that heater) or both. I had thought about this myself for my TSN but I love to look at him so much that I changed my mind on having him outside. I think I want to get a slightly smaller pool and put it in my basement. My plan was to get a relatively cheap pool and then put a ton of insulation around it and then build a plywood shell to hide the ugly pool and insulation.

As for the pool for a Koi pond you would still have to winterize it somehow. I don't think it would be as hard since they can take much more cold than an RTC but they can still freeze.

 

[nitrofish1]

For how cold it gets here if you want an RTC outside in a pond I would think you would need some massive insulation or a really kick *** heater (although then you have the electric bills for that heater) or both. I had thought about this myself for my TSN but I love to look at him so much that I changed my mind on having him outside. I think I want to get a slightly smaller pool and put it in my basement. My plan was to get a relatively cheap pool and then put a ton of insulation around it and then build a plywood shell to hide the ugly pool and insulation.

As for the pool for a Koi pond you would still have to winterize it somehow. I don't think it would be as hard since they can take much more cold than an RTC but they can still freeze.

Both pools would be in a shed outside. I'm a bit hesitant on putting a pool in my basement for the fear that it would collapse and fill it with water....

 

[IKeepPacu]

if the shed is going to be outside, it will be cheaper both initially and on electric IMO to insulate the shed itself with fiberglass insulation, and use a temperature set electric heater in the shed to heat the entire thing to 80* or so.

heating a small shed, and letting the water take on the ambient temp, will most likely be cheaper and easier than buying a couple 1000w heaters to heat the water, then insulating the pool itself.

 

[nitrofish1]

if the shed is going to be outside, it will be cheaper both initially and on electric IMO to insulate the shed itself with fiberglass insulation, and use a temperature set electric heater in the shed to heat the entire thing to 80* or so.

heating a small shed, and letting the water take on the ambient temp, will most likely be cheaper and easier than buying a couple 1000w heaters to heat the water.

was thinking of keeping the shed heated in the winter, but not to 80. however, it may be cheaper to heat the shed to an ambient temp rather than heat the water.

the only issue with this is that the koi pond would not go through its natural cycles of the seasons.

 

[Muske]

How about concrete block walls?

Is the shed already built?