Heaven Or Hell?

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"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life". John 3:16

Reject Jesus Christ and pay for your sin yourself, forever alone, forever without God...

"The great day of the Lord is near. It is near and coming quickly. Listen! The cry on that day will be bitter...I will bring distress on the people and they will walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the Lord. Their blood will be poured out like dust and their entrails like filth. Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to save them on the day of the Lord's wrath. In the fire of His jealousy the whole world will be consumed, for He will make a sudden end of all who live on the earth...Seek the Lord, all you humble of the land, you who do what He commands. Seek righteousness, seek humility; perhaps you will be sheltered on the day of the Lord's anger." Zephaniah 1:14-18 2:3

Many children of God will worship and reign with Jesus Christ in His new heaven and new earth for all eternity. Will you be there?
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Have I pissed you off? Here's Islam:

“And fear the Fire which is prepared for the disbelievers.” (Quran 3:131)

The Prophet of Islam said:

“When any of you dies, he is shown his position (in the Hereafter) morning and evening. If he is one of the people of Paradise, he is shown the place of the people of Paradise. If he is one of the people of Hell, he is shown the place of people of Hell. He is told, ‘this is your position, until God resurrects you on the Day of Resurrection.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari, Saheeh Muslim)

“They will long to leave the Fire, but never will they leave there from; and theirs will be a lasting torment.” (Quran 5:37)

“Surely, God has cursed the disbelievers, and has prepared for them a flaming Fire wherein they will abide for ever.” (Quran 33:64)

“And whosoever disobeys God and His Messenger, then surely, for him is the fire of Hell, he shall dwell therein forever.” (Quran 72:23)

“Surely, the disbelievers will be in the torment of Hell to abide therein forever. (The torment) will not be lightened for them, and they will be plunged into destruction with deep regrets, sorrows and in despair therein. We wronged them not, but they were the wrongdoers. And they will cry: ‘O Malik! Let your Lord make an end of us’ He will say: ‘Surely, you shall abide forever.’ Indeed We have brought the truth to you, but most of you have a hatred for the truth” (Quran 43:74-78)
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Have I pissed you off again? Islam says others go to hell, Christianity says others go to hell...hmm sounds like the biggest demanding dictator here...my way or be destroyed, controlling through fear..hmm...this is God? I say no, why? Because I know...

If I say to everyone on earth, I forgive all of you, for I know the reason that made you do what you do, the life you went through, the surrounding, the limitation, the system placed before you, the life forced upon you, I who is all wisdom, I who is all knowing, all Loving, all forgiving, all understanding, I forgive you for I see you...there is only heaven, for my Love, my Truth can only create that, if I am everything, then heaven is all that exists, hence heaven is all you have. Now, am I not greater than this demanding, angry God?
 
if this thread hiccups it is getting closed. This kind of thread usually doesn't end well. Maybe that's why it was posted?
 
But he has a point, though.....
 
Ok if Jesus Crist-(God) created us. Why should he punish his creation? After all ,isn't he the one who is at fault. If it was soo important to live exactly as he wishes,why were we given the ability to choose otherwise. Shall we punish children for things they were never taught to do correctly? Life has no blueprints or controlls,though you have many options to choose. Different circumstances may lead to different choices. Therefore there are millions of reason to choose varied paths. We choose the path others have taught us,ignorant of which is the correct way to go. I beleve every person has a different path to seek righteousness.
 
Personally, and this is just my belief, I think that maybe life on earth is our hell. Once we die we are then judged on how we lived and will either move on to heaven or will be born again to live another life in hell. Think about it. This place is only getting worse. Why? Maybe because all the good people are now in heaven and we're stuck with all the ***holes.
 
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Truly I say to you, God is everything, thus how can anything not be rooted from that Source? I am the Here & Now, I am the All That Is, I am the Everything...evil, evil, evil...hmm, how can you define light without darkness? How can you know day without the night? How can you know pain without pleasure? For if pleasure is all you know, how would you know what it means to have pleasure? To not have sex is to know having sex, if having sex is the state of living, what is sex then? And how do we know without the creation of "not having sex"?

Religion makes you obey, stagnant, not moving, not growing, not thinking..and this equals death.

Truth makes you think, truth makes you grow, evolve, create, experience, become. God is Truth my friends. There is only home, you not a sinner, for you never sinned...I see you, the all knowing, I understand everything, I see everything, I am everything.

Hence said Jesus ,"The Father and I are One, without the Father, I am nothing." Hence said Buddha ,"if what I am saying does not connect to your state of being, don't believe it then, experience life for yourself. Hence said Sri Krishna ,"I am in you, you are in me, know this and you know everything.

God only exists in Unity, not in seperation. God is all expressing...look at the nature, look at the universe, all connected, all defining each other, all One. And the nature of the predators that you see, the way they kill, they way they hunt..all comes from the nature of God my friends. If there is hell, there would be more people in hell than heaven. If there is fate, then why bother about our actions? Because it's all written, the bad we do, the good we do...so where comes this hell to punish us? Why punish when it's predetermined? Hahaha...hilarious indeed.

Don't judge God with your state of mentality, don't think God is offended just because you are offended. If there is God you say, then God has to be all knowing, for the all knowing has to be beyond your level of understanding...what I have read posted in those verses of Bible and Quran are nothing but a level of mentality they had. If there is such God, I will face Him and make Him realize truth...not illusion...but then, how truth without the illusion?;)

Hell, hell, hell..only in your mind. Change your thoughts, and you change the world.
 
Sarcosuchus;873890; said:
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Hell, hell, hell..only in your mind. Change your thoughts, and you change the world.
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My Thoughts/Truth exactly:D
 
To me God is who, you make him to be....he can be any figure, shape , or being he is who he is, and wat u want him to be....no one can truly say who God is , i know i can't so i cant judge someone else on there views of there God and there religion....so who knows if thre is a heaven or hell....hell to some people is waking up everyone morning and living there day..so when they die, do they go to heaven for there actions, or put in a worst place then wat they were already in...was it honeslty all there fault for wat they did in there life...but if good does love us all and is watching over us then shouldn't he bring us all to a better place when we pass.....or is it his decision once again to judge us for our small sins over our miniscule lives...these are my thoughts. They may not make sense to some but they make sense to me.
 
BadDogsPa;873875; said:
Ok if Jesus Crist-(God) created us. Why should he punish his creation? After all ,isn't he the one who is at fault. If it was soo important to live exactly as he wishes,why were we given the ability to choose otherwise. Shall we punish children for things they were never taught to do correctly? Life has no blueprints or controlls,though you have many options to choose. Different circumstances may lead to different choices. Therefore there are millions of reason to choose varied paths. We choose the path others have taught us,ignorant of which is the correct way to go. I beleve every person has a different path to seek righteousness.
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i think 99% of christians believe christ is the SON of GOD, not GOD. what a fun topic, should be closed soon? IMO "religion is a joke, a man made thing to keep the masses humble or stupid". now, spirituality and your relation with your higher power is where its at. now go drop your life saving to the *** hooker jon, coke snorting, embezzler that tells you, "you're a sinner and need christ in your life. or grab your hareum and hed for the hills!:WHOA:
 
well..i for one am a born again christian..can't stand these useless threads

this one is going to go straight to hell...no pun intended :grinno:
 
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