HELP AN IDIOT SAVE HIS ALTUMS :(

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Madmisha

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Oct 21, 2015
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So long story short,after a whole bunch of luck and success with making some rather hardy Discus,ive gotten myself some wild altums,about 2.5 inch long and 5 inch tall....
ive got them from a seller who kept them at PH 6.2.....convinced me they have been through 5 day courses of all sorts of meds,and are eating frozen bloodwarms,which i did see them eat.


so i bought 4,dripped their way into my tank for about an hour.....where my PH is around 7,GH 8,KH 4....the tank is a 80gal planted tank,Eheim Professional 2 and JBL Cristalprofi 1901 canister filters,temperature is kept at 30 degrees Celsius....
the tankmates were 8 Discus,10 Emperor tetras,a bunch of L numbers,corys,a fully mature Pearl Gourami,3 "fake" altums aka Suriname altums....5 bettas.....2 rainbow sharks and 8 green tiger barbs....and a mix of a few more tetras and 3 dennison barbs (huge mistake,i know i know,but they didnt touch my Suriname altums or discus for the 5 months i've had them...why now!?)

on the first day,they seemed shocked,stressed,but fine.
one the second day,they started eating,and were doing great.....one the third day,they didnt eat,and split into groups of two for each corner-they looked great tho,being very territorial,shoo'ing the other angels away...
on the fourth day,when i woke up in the morning,one was dead....the other 3 were torn to shreds. my Suriname altums were also beaten heavily...

my reaction was to get them down into a bucket with the tank water to spare them the trauma of catching barbs in a planted tank.....and revamp my tank whole,leaving only the discus and L numbers in there.
ive then dripped them for half an hour back into the tank....turned the lights off for the rest of the day,and dumped some blackwater extract into the tank,which they did seem to like.

as of now.....one of the 3 angels seems to be hanging by a thread....barely keeping up straight,sometimes falling the the ground but then swimming right back up....the other 2 arent having a great time either,but atleast they seem more stable....they seem very,very stressed,and are still wounded.

any tips on what can i do to help them survive this crisis? one the one hand,i'd love to medicate them for the slight fin rot they started going on from the wounds (inflicted by who knows who) one the other hand,i know these fish are VERY sensitive and need stable water to thrive in.....so im worried about even adding them salt....

if anyone here has those fish,and can offer any tips,i'd love to hear them
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thanks in advance
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Try to provide as large of container as possible, 5g can be some what stressful in and of itself. Provide clean cycled water and keep shaded in a quiet area. Possibly the addition of methylene blue to increase 02 saturation, prevent infection and provide shade...
 
Sorry to sound harsh.

But your tank is way overstocked. And the mix of fish is totally inappropriate.
They can't live in a bucket long term.

Can you not set up another tank for the Altums?
Or take them back to the supplier.
 
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