Help getting Peacock eels to eat!

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Hi, I'm relativley new to eels (but not fish in general), and I recently came into a problem. I got two little peacock eels about a month ago for my knifefish tank, as the substrate is sand and theres lots of wood, I figured they might do well in it. I never really saw them much (xcept for heads, etc) after i put them in when the lights were on. I figured this was OK as i had had great success with the cryptic digging khuli loaches, who in my generously fed snail-filled community tank, had never had a problem (I still have one that I've had for eleven years!).

So here's what I did-
I heard they did well with ghost shrimp, so I started putting twenty ghost shrimp in the tank every week. As my knifefish eats them too, i figured that would be a good number. (the eels are about 5 in. long and still babies).
I also put bloodworms and sometimes brine shrimp in (frozen, one cube defrosted in a cup of tank water), poured into the waterfall from the filter (so it falls to the bottom), just before lights out a couple times a week.

The tank is-
55 gallons with lots of rocks plants and driftwood, as well as a big cave in the middle made of pvc for the knifefish. All parameters are good, water was started with dechlorinated tap water and water changes are done with D/I water with Discus buffer and "Blackwater Expert" extract, So water is soft, with Ph of about 6.5.
Other fish are a Clown Knife Fish (about 5-6 in including tail, he's still a baby too) a Gibbiceps sailfin pleco (also about 5 in), two goldfish (feeders that were a lil too big), and four ~2in blue gouramis.

I also feed gouramis and goldfish brine shrimp, "emerald entree" (mixture with greens in it, bloodworms and flake. I give the pleco algae disks cucumber and zuchinni, though I'm sure he eats some of the worms and stuff too, and the knifefish gets a minagerie of little fish, mainly minnows and goldies, but also tetras, danios, convicts, little gouramis, and whatever else is available so I can keep his diet varied. There are also snails in the tank, which I figured they could eat with their long noses.

(before I get any comments about it, I know how big these fish can get, this won't be their tank for life)

So theres' the whole backstory. I thought through that, the cryptic eels would have enough to eat. But today, the smaller of the two eels came out in the daytime so I could see his whole body, and he looks emaciated! Like he hasn't eaten for a long time! I figured they were eating, but given that I had never seen them eat and that there's alot of crossed trophic level in this tank, It is possible that the CK eats all the ghost shrimp and the pleco eats the worms at night. I figured that would work, but am I wrong?

Its also possible that, because I haven't seen the other eel's side (which I believe is the larger of the two), that he is eating it all. Is it common for peacocks to be dominating over others? I was under the impression that they would get along.

SO theres my long question with lots of backstory, but you didn't have to read all that unless you were very interested, or had a question that I hope I answered with all that initial information.

But my main question is, how can I make sure that they're eating?
Are peacock eels very meek? Should I move them? or is it possible that they're looking for something else or that ones just dominating the other?

I can't see that they would have much competition during the day, except for the goldfish and gouramis, but they always swim away when I try to get food down there.

Do peacock eels have a favourite food?

But basically i'm just asking all the experienced eel keepers on this forum, what should I do? are there any tricks that I could try to make sure theyre getting their fare share?

Thanks
Daniel
 
A little trick I've been using is putting a cube of frozen bloodworms into the substrate... it thaws quickly and creates a little pocket that doesn't get blown around in the current of the tank.

Do the eels have a favorite spot? Maybe try this where they usually hang out and see if it helps.

Sorry I can not offer more advice...
 
And maybe try isolating them and feeding if they look like they're close to dying from lack of food... My fire eel eats from my hand so I don't have this problem, but do have experience with other stubborn oddball fish.
 
So I think we have a lot in common. I also have a striped peacock eel, a BGK and a gibbiceps pleco together. I've had them together for about 4 or 5 months now and no problems. At the begging my eel hid often and i never really saw him eat. I was using blood worms and quite often I'd only see the BGK eat, well everything he found. I became worried about the eel because he was hiding so much and I never saw him eat but I figured he I'm coming up on 4 weeks he's gotta be eating right? And then for about 2 weeks straight he was out of the substrate and swimming around the tank. Eating blood worms, I use a turkey baster to get the food in front of him for ensured eating. and then all of a sudden he was hiding again. but reassurance was there! I saw him eat for a while. after a few more days of hiding he came out of the rocks and has not been under since. It's been about 3 months straight and he doesnt hide. I see him eat all the time. He'll eat blood worms, seen him nibble on krill and sinking pellets, and his new and absolute favorite, earth worms! I dig em up from the back yard and cut em into small pieces for my guys and they love it. The eel and the BGK even eat from my hand! He is an interesting character that I do not regret adding to my tank even with the scare about food.

I guess just try the turkey baster to make sure he sees it. frozen blood worms worked best for me and when its bigger try cutting up earth worms. I find that he looses interest if it looks like its dead, but I dont buy live blood worms just make sure they are floating/sinking if the fish is picky. and during the period where its working out comfortability dont be loud in the room, I found that things like closing my cabinet door loudly spooked him a little bit and you want him to be comfortable for a long time. and no sudden movements in the tank when you feed him.

let me know how it goes.

seems we have a lot in common, I write a lot too. oh yea and....

-Dan
 
Target feeding is a great idea.. and conspecific aggression in spiney eels is very common. the 55 should be OK. BUt you may consider splitting them up. or adding a 3rd when you upgrade the tank. I've had good luck in keeping trios, and single fish. But no luck at all in keeping "pairs". ghost shrimp, bloodworms, live black worms, red worms, ect are all good food choice for new eels. I try to stick to frozen if at all possible. So bloodworms are likely your best bet. I've also had varying luck with mysis.
 
rideit6578, hah we do have a lot in common, my name is Dan too. Well I go by Daniel but thats funny. Thanks for the info, I haven't tried earthworms yet but I will. The main problem is that they don't even seem to go after the food when I'm there, so I just turn the lights off and quietly leave the room, hoping for the best. I'll try earthworms and get some more shrimp tomorrow, mabye hang out in the dark and quiet by the tank and see if anything happens.

And MonsterMinis, thanks for the info. I thought peacocks were very social animals but then again, I don't know much about spiny eels. But thats why I got two. Thanks for that tidbit, I'll keep an eye on them for the time being. Although I have many tanks, This is the only one that has soft water, the others being hard for C/A cichlids. I couldn't move one to there temporarialy could I? I don't know but my terrible idea sense is tingling on that one.

(oh and if I moved it somewhere, either to my parrot tank or baby convict growout tank)
 
another thing I did was put like semi blue clear-ish folders from staples or w/e in the light to make the lighting blue which came out nice and most importantly cheap! try the blood worms with the turkey baster first. I have a little cup they soak in first and break apart, then i squirt in a little at a time for them. also if you try the earth worm make sure it is cut up small enough that it wont be trouble for them to get down.

as for the pairs being a bad idea I have no idea, go on that info^^ I only have one.
dont put it with the parrots, my parrots are territorial and would attack it, forcing it to hide more often. remember you want the eel to feel comfortable.

I took this video for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DtCY3sp4Y0

let me know how it goes.
 
I got my fire eel from a great shop that already had them on frozen krill. I think this is key, for future reference in buying an eel (and many other fish)... talk to the employees about how long they have had them and what they eat, and even ask to see them eat!
I started out putting my arm all the way in the tank and dangling the frozen krill in front of my eel, I never offered him krill any other way. I did not leave it on the floor of the tank or anything. It was either my hand, or STARVE! Haha. Seriously though, with patience, I got him to go for one piece of krill his first night home.
I also would only put my hands near him when I had food if I could help it, so he always associates my hand with getting fed (maybe not such a good idea with a giant eel! heh).
Eventually, he would notice when my hand was in the tank, he would look up whenever I put my hand in... now he will swim to the top of the water to get fed. This is great because I get to control exactly what he eats and how much he eats, and I always know he is getting enough food.
 
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