Help identify palmas

[oregonian]

just got these 2 yesterday. both are about 5". got the pair for $35i just can't tell which sub species they are. sorry about the bad pics but all i could get

 

[flamenco-t]

Palmas polli

 

[oregonian]

thanks, i was hoping they were, the retros are kinda too skinny for my taste i was only going to get one for $25 but the guy told me he'd give me both for $35 so couldn't resist, besides my GF felt bad about leaving one alone

 

[estuary]

thanks, i was hoping they were, the retros are kinda too skinny for my taste i was only going to get one for $25 but the guy told me he'd give me both for $35 so couldn't resist, besides my GF felt bad about leaving one alone

congrats on the pick up
mine is my fav. fish such personality