Help me ID this specimen please.

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Hi,

got this fellow from a craigslist buy. All the seller knew is that he was a cichlid! I new that too, but I believe he is a CA or SA cichlid.


I kindly as the experts here for a proper ID so I can learn more about him.


Thanks.

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Green severum. Nice looking fish. A little on the skinny side though.

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Green severum. Yes a tad skinny, fatten him up!
 
Doesn't look skinny to me, actually looks reasonably thick. Fish don't need to be fat to be healthy and well fed; in fact, underfeeding a little can lengthen their lives. That's the science of it. As to preference, I feed fry and juvies reasonably well but not to the point of bulging bellies or changing their body profile. Adults I feed somewhat sparingly, but that's me. Not my intention to give a critique on fish feeding here.

Otherwise, a few of the basics regarding severums in general (which are among my perennially favorite fish)... They're SA, there are several varieties, including several wild varieties, plus some cultivated strains. You can expect 8 inches or more adult size (occasionally, much more). Other than clean, good quality water, they're not too fussy over exact conditions; I've kept mine over the years anywhere from 7-7.8 pH and 76-82 water temperature. In a tank they're generally omnivorous, do quite well on a quality pellet-- mine get NLS and/or Omega One. Some feed them veggie treats, peas, lettuce, zuchini, and the like, which a lot of them enjoy but it's hardly a requirement with a good diet otherwise. I had a wild rotkeil (red head) severum that finally died a few months ago, was minimum 13 years old, probably older (I got him as an adult and before I got him he was kept in too small a tank, cheap food, etc.) who over the years was fed probably 95% pellet (HBH soft krill and soft spirulina for a while and NLS and/or Omega One for about 80% of his time with me) and treats of freeze dried mysis, freeze dried brine shrimp, etc. On just a handful of occasions over the years I tried peeled, thawed frozen peas, which my rotkeils loved, but this was such a rarity it can't be said it contributed anything significant toward their overall health or nutrition.

Due to their size they need a decent sized tank. I've seen them get mean in too small a tank, like kill everything in the tank mean. They're not predators, but may (or may not) pick off small tetras, etc.
 
ReallY? You guys think he is that skinny? Maybe the previous owner was not really taking care of the tank... I am feeding him worms, flakes and granules. What else can I get him? Could you guys share as to how to tell if he is that skinny? Any pics for comparison? Thanks for helping me ID this guy!


Neutrino, thanks for the info. I will definitively keep you in mind when more questions come up! I do not believe he is that skinny. I also do not believe in getting fish over fed. What is your opinion on worms? I used to feed my previous tanks worms besides flakes and shrimp. He is currently housed in a 120 with two red tin foil barbs that are about 8-10 inches long and 3 nice sized parrots.
 
Only form of worms I normally feed any fish are freeze dried. For example, I find that freeze dried blood worms encourage my wild angelfish to spawn. Used to feed frozen or live years ago, but freeze dried is my preference now. Overall I like to primarily feed a quality pellet. Some of the quality pellets (or flakes) out there are quite complete in quality nutrition, meaning nothing else is required and your fish will do just fine with them and adding anything else is purely optional. Not to say fish won't enjoy any additional treats or that they can't serve a purpose at times (like my angelfish with the bloodworms), just that they're not required with an otherwise quality food.

But people will debate fish food/feeding almost endlessly. I do what I do after years of testing and experimenting with food and my philosophy is to keep things simple and to keep risk to a minimum (which is why I prefer freeze dried to live). But there's also are other experienced/knowledgeable folks here who might do things differently.

As far as severums, I've kept strictly rotkeils over the past 10 years or so (other types before that) and they seem to especially like NLS and to look very good on it. Not the only food I use, so I'm not pushing it. Like I said I've done a lot of food experimenting over the years and could tell you which fish I keep does well on which food or combination of foods, but the sevs I've had look good on NLS, including Thera-A. Just relating my experience with them...
 
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