Help me plan my tank build!

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Ok guys, I'm getting ready to start piecing this thing together! I'm hoping to get the opinion of the experienced builders on here before I pull the trigger though!

Ok. The basis for my plan is building on a 96" by 48" footprint of cabinet grade 3/4" hardwood oak plywood. In intend to have an outer frame on the bottom with high grade 2/4's laid flat on the bottom piece of ply to act as a holder for the sides and back. I would place the 3/4" hardwood ply sides and back on the inside of the frame to help hold them in place. I would then add a top that would be framed with 2x4s like the bottom, again used to hold the walls in place. Once the tank is pieced together, I would add risers around the outside to help brace the tank. These risers would go from the bottom framing to the top framing. For the bottom frame, I would add one or maybe two additional layers of 2x4s laid flat on top of one another to strengthen the bottom joints. All joints would be screwed and glued.

Once I have a box with one open end, where the window will go, I would frame the part that would hold the window with 2x4s that are laid flat against the inside of the plywood. This would give an opening that will support the window from all sides, and which is anchored to the walls and the joists on the outside of the frame.

Once that is complete, I would fiberglass the inside of the tank. I would first lay down a coat of resin, then a layer of thick glass in the corners and edges, then two layers of glass and then one final layer of resin. Once that is dry, I will cut the openings in the top of the tank. I will cut in three 18" by 36" holes, which will allow the plywood and fiberglass on the roof to act as a substantial crossbrace.

Next, I will add the glass. This is the part that is stumping me. I would like to go 36 inches high on this tank, but I'm not sure if I can. The problem I have is my local supplier can only get 1/2 inch glass, so that's kinda what I'm stuck with. From what I gather reading here and elsewhere, I should probably be ok with 1/2 inch glass for 30 inches. Do you all agree with this? Would I be able to get away with a 36 inch height? I know I'd be better off with 3/4 inch glass either way, but I don't know anywhere local that could get it for me. :( It sucks living in the middle of nowhere! lol

After the glass is in and siliconed in place, I will CAREFULLY coat the entire inside with wetsuit as a final just-in-case measure.

And a final question... Would the risers really be neccessary for this size of a tank? Could I get away with just screwing and gluing the ply together and fiberglassing it all? I'd love to free up the extra room, but at the same time I want this thing stout as I'm military and I WILL have to move it.

Thanks all!

Oh- here's a top-down drawing I did of the floorplan. Sorry I don't have the fancy CAD stuff like a lot of you guys! lol For clarity, I didn't bother drawing the risers that would go all around the outside. They would be reminiscent of risers in a wall with drywall only on one side.

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Hi mate, i am going a lot less on the structure, i am looking at 18mm ply with a 1x1/2 steel frame all around, sounds a lot less than the 2x4 you are and most use, but i am gona see how it goes, as i want to get as much tank volume as possible aswell, so a bit over build on yours as most IMO ( but betetr to sleep at night LOL ), but that can be netter in a way so o would say your build sounds good a strong, but to save space for the wee ones, more GRP will do the job, i say it should, , more GRP the better as its as strong as...well strong LOL

Oh and to say that at 36 high i defo go for 3/4 glass, its what i have also come to see as the main requirment, i am going less at the window on mine will be 30 inch and i will be using 3/4 i think.
 
1 1/2" steel is pretty flimsy imo waynes world. I used 2.5" on my steel tank. You also need supports for the sides and back walls not just a steel frame more of a cage to support the wood.

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1 1/2" steel is pretty flimsy imo waynes world. I used 2.5" on my steel tank. You also need supports for the sides and back walls not just a steel frame more of a cage to support the wood.

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My idea is for a full steel frame/cage out of the 1x1/2 steel box, side upright supports being spaced 6 inch apart, or therabouts.
 
The more i thought about it...i assumed u might be using box tube not angle...sorry. def should withstand anything then lol. I like the box opposed to angle bacause you can slide your sheets of wood right in. I had a bit of trouble getting my side pieces in with a full angle frame.

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Sorry for the dereail...does ur local glass supplier deal in acrylic or glass? Acrylic will hold with a center brace on the front middle of the glass giving you 2 windows will one sheet. And for bracing, ive seen alot of tanks with strips of 2x2 on the inside seams for support. Just an idea. If you want to get away with no bracing i would fiberglass the entire outside/top/bottom of the tank. Ive never used fiberglass but i would do the entire tank. I hate seeing wooden frames with fiberglass only on the inside. Looks super unfinished and y let that outside wood get wet. Green terra has a tank on here like im referring too. Super classy build in fiberglass :) and exellent craftsminship i'd def read though his build for info.

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