help on aquarium size

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toyotasrfun

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well AAAAAAAAAAAAlright.. here goes my first post
okay
so i currently have discus
5 blue turquoise, 4 angels, 1 barracuda, various tetras, 1 tiny pleco, tonnes of plants.. well enough.. and some shrimp in my tank
it's WAAAAAAAAAAAy too small for all my fish and recently my discus have started spawning.. bonus for me.. i'de like to see something hatch from their eggs but the parents keep eating their young (self preservation?)
AAAAnyhow.. that's one of my reasons for getting a bigger tank
the other is that i one day want to have an arowana and a few more discus
so here's what i'm thinking
i began thinking about a 120 gallon aquarium.. no good
then upped it to a 150 72x18x28 gallon.. no good again
then upped to a 180 72x24x24 gallon.. no good once more
and now! a 225 72x24x30 gallon.. sounds just right..

the 225 gallon looks to be the one i will buy
any qualms on the size?
i plan to one day have an arowana
i'm leaning heavily towards a super red or somethign of that nature (i REALLY hope to get a purple base red spoonhead) with not too serious a spoonhead

AAAAnyhow.. will this size aquarium be adequate?
this will be a planted aquarium and will also house my discus..
there are no if ands or buts.. this is what i will put in this aquarium.. i've been told i'm crazy for having my barracuda with my discus.. but so far everything has been peachy with them and my neon tetras for a long time.. well.. until i slowed the feeding cycle of my barracuda.. and in any case he's NEVER attacked my discus or angels..
AAAAAAnyhow.. i digress from the point
advice on the setup?

I will be doing a lot of aquascaping also
I will have to read more into it as I'll be starting almost entirely from scratch (i currently have an aquascape i like in my 40 gallon but will keep it strictly for my 40 gallon
I will be using a black lava rock type gravel that is as fine as crushed coral
TONNES of mopani and malaysian driftood
Many rocks from various local quarry's and places of that nature.. lakes etc..
I was thinking to use some kind of fertilizer right at the beginning in order to stimulate the plant growth..
I know that you should have fish in the aquarium to build up the natural fertilizers in the substrate for a while before so I may just end up using only driftwoods and rocks for the first few months of the aquascape project..
I hope to have my tank aquascaped and ready for the coming year to add an arowana into but will definately have to wait until it is just right. I figure the tank will take some time for the chemical levels to reach acceptable enough levels to keep my current fish in there also but I will wait for that too.
I can see this large tank sitting almost naked for a couple of months.. I will add fish slowly, maybe increasing bio load once or twice a week and do not plan to have more than a few other fish in the tank..
Let me know what you think
Hopefully this site is helpful and the peopel are friendly!
hope to hear from you all soon!
thanks!
 
If i were going to invest that way with those fish... I would go at least 300. And then the discus with a silver may not last long after the Aro hits two to 3'.. :) At our lfs they have 2 3 foot silvers with a 2 foot spotted gar and a 22" Knife.. All of which woulod devour even the biggest discus i've personally seen.. 6" tall... But i am not an expert and do not have an aro due to size of my tnak i will not buy it for myself... I am looking to upgrade to a 300 at least as the wife will not allow anything bigger in the house.. As for outside she is totally cool with me setting up a more fitting habitat for aros..
 
If i were going to invest that way with those fish... I would go at least 300. And then the discus with a silver may not last long after the Aro hits two to 3'.. :) At our lfs they have 2 3 foot silvers with a 2 foot spotted gar and a 22" Knife.. All of which woulod devour even the biggest discus i've personally seen.. 6" tall... But i am not an expert and do not have an aro due to size of my tnak i will not buy it for myself... I am looking to upgrade to a 300 at least as the wife will not allow anything bigger in the house.. As for outside she is totally cool with me setting up a more fitting habitat for aros..

i would have to agree!:grinyes: and guys, size does matter...big time! so always, always, get he biggest tank you can afford:headbang2
 
the largest tank that i am capable of using will more than likely be the 220 gallon aquarium
yes.. i'm told that bigger is better in the case of the arowana, but will this size aquarium be sufficient?
if i am to go with a larger aquarium I will be getting into things like having to put it in the basement on concrete.. i dont like this option for many reasons and would not enjoy doing it
my main issue on this size aquarium would be whether or not the width of 24 inches would be too small for this ancient fish..
keep the opinions coming though!
I am very happy to read them!
 
Make the tank wider if anything. I'd go at least a 72x36 footprint, and choose height later. With aros surface area is most important. Drop the height to 18 and you will be in the best shape, but a 30" width is the minimum I would even consider going with, and that isn't forever. Another upgrade is likely.
 
i had thought about making the tank wider.. unfortunately i do not have the funds for this.. the price of the tank doubles if i go with a wider footprint.. it sucks..
i'm hoping that the 24 inch width will be enough.. also space is indeed an issue..but i suppose that by the time the fish grows to a size where i need a larger tank I'll have a 400 gallon and live in a larger house
Anyway.. keep them coming!
thanks for the replies so far!
 
sorry.. i dont have the funds to enlarge the tank to that footprint right now is what i meant to say.. in the future.. prolly a few years after getting the arowana though i'll be looking into a larger tank most likely
 
enlarging the foot print shouldn't make it much more expensive. It's the height that pushes the price up. Stick with 18 inches high and get some prices with a larger footprint, it's when you go above 18" that it gets much more expensive.
 
i cant agree with you more.. i was thinking that if i reversed the height and width that maybe i'de be alright.. unfortunately i was told that if i went any wider that thicker glass would have to be used
so instead of the 1/2 inch glass i'de have to get 3/4 inch glass..
and basically that's what is doubling the price of the tank..
not only that.. but it would SUPER heavy!
Anyway..
keep it coming!
i'm glad to see that i should be able to use the 24 inch width though!
the cost is still really high for this tank but i think it's something that i just have to bite the bullet on and pay up front so that i can get things started..
AAAnyhow..
keep the input coming!
 
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