Help plan a 6'x2' swamp!

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This post has elements of DIY and reptiles and plants, but this seemed like the most appropriate section to post in.

Some of you may have read about me having to break down my 220g tank due to potential future problems from its water weight.

Well I've decided to keep the tank, but I'm going to run it with maybe 8-10'' of water in it and push all the substrate, wood, and rocks over to one side to form some swampy land. I've got 3 young black mangroves I'm going to plant (I'll probably get more), and the main livestock is going to be some mainly aquatic turtles, which I'm planning on getting from theturtlesource.com. Probably gonna add some indian almond leaves for blackwater effect.

The tank is drilled on both sides, and I want to keep the sump running if possible. My plan is to drill holes into the plastic overflow panel on the right side at the height I want the water, and then to only run the pump that pumps up to the left side. This way the water has directional flow, but is slower than if both pumps were running. And on the left side, I'm hoping to find a large piece of driftwood to create a semi-waterfall type thing where the pump pushes its water down the wood and into the bog. I figure this will make it a bit quieter than the water just shooting out and falling down.

Would this work? Does the 1 side in 1 side out only running one pump thing seem doable?

Right now the tank has a large 6'' T5 lighting system with full spectrum and pink plant lights, and it produces a good amount of heat (plus the tank water runs around 82) so I'm not sure if I'll have to get some kind of additional heat/lighting.

Should I keep running pressurized CO2 in my water for the aquatic and semi-aquatic plants?

Lastly, I'd LOVE suggestions for what else to put in the tank. I'm going to try to get the PH pretty low, like down in the 5.5-6.3 range. So I'm looking for suggestions of plants and animals that I could keep in here along with (potentially pretty carnivorous and maybe aggressive) turtles. I'd love to try some carnivorous plants (of course I understand that the turtles will likely crush flytraps, but I kind of want to try putting them in an out of the way spot) and maybe even a snake or another reptile/fish if there are any that a turtle won't destroy.

Open to any ideas! Thanks! Trying to turn tragedy into something fun.
 
Just on lighting, be sure to provide the appropriate lighting for turtles. (UVB bulb and heat bulb or mercury vapor bulb for a two in one). You may already know that, just thought I'd mention just in case these are your first turtles.


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Just on lighting, be sure to provide the appropriate lighting for turtles. (UVB bulb and heat bulb or mercury vapor bulb for a two in one). You may already know that, just thought I'd mention just in case these are your first turtles.


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They are, in fact, although I've kept other reptiles growing up. I had a feeling I'd need to get additional lights but wasn't sure specifically which.

Thanks!

Maybe I can hang them from the tank's crossbeams b/c I'm not sure how effective they'd be through the glass and all the distance to the bottom of the tank.
 
I'm draining the tank right now and planning on adding a bunch of peat pellet bags after doing so. I want to lower the PH dramatically, and I'm thinking about not washing them so that all the peat dust goes in with.

This isn't actually dangerous, is it? (there will be no fish in the tank when this happens)
 
They are, in fact, although I've kept other reptiles growing up. I had a feeling I'd need to get additional lights but wasn't sure specifically which.

Thanks!

Maybe I can hang them from the tank's crossbeams b/c I'm not sure how effective they'd be through the glass and all the distance to the bottom of the tank.

You'll want to hang the lighting above the turtles basking area, UVB does not travel through water well at all and the heat lamp won't do them any good if they can't get out and get dry while under it


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Starting to drain last night:
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Where I left off yesterday. Took pic this morning and sun was kind of blinding. Still got my Eheim 2262 running on it to keep the water alive, put a small internal filter and an air bubbler in my sump to keep the shrimp cleaning crew breathing. Added a heater to the top of the tank as it's normally heated by the sump.
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There's still a ropefish hiding in there! He was impossible to get out with all the plants, rocks, and logs, but I'm hoping to catch him when I rearrange stuff a bit.

Would still love input/comments/concerns about my original idea.

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Wow - ropefish are great - why not just leave him in there? He will certainly keep up with the uneaten food from the turtle, etc.
I emailed you - and will think about more plants. How about some small-size ferns and/or bromeliads?
 
Wow - ropefish are great - why not just leave him in there? He will certainly keep up with the uneaten food from the turtle, etc.
I emailed you - and will think about more plants. How about some small-size ferns and/or bromeliads?

Thanks! My concern for the rope is just that most turtles I'd be interested in are piscovores. Maybe if I get the turtles small enough they'll get used to the rope, but I figured I probably can't actually keep any fish in here with the turtles. Although it'd be cool. Was almost thinking of trying a large, cheap pleco for algae control.

Crazy thought--would pacman catfish work in here?! I doubt they'd try eating turtles unless the size difference was ridiculous, and they seem to be pretty cool with low PH. Maybe turtles wouldn't bother them cause they're essentially logs with mouths.
 
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